[AUS] Jehovah's Witness boy ordered to have transfusion

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Should Jehovah's Witnesses be forced to accept blood transfusions in life-threatening cases?
Yes 53%  53%  [ 18 ]
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19 Apr 2013, 10:39 am

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A teenage boy suffering a lethal form of blood cancer has vowed to "rip out" the IV needle if doctors attempt a blood transfusion against his religious beliefs.

But the NSW Supreme Court has overruled the wishes of the 17-year-old patient and his parents, ordering him to undergo the potentially lifesaving procedure.

The teen, a devout Jehovah's Witness, was admitted to the Sydney Children's Hospital with Hodgkin's disease in January last year.

I would be tempted to say "let him die" if he's over 18. If he's of sound mind and if he knows what he's doing, then frankly he should be quite free to see through the consequences of his religion-fuelled stupidity.

If, on the other hand, his parents are actually coercing him to reject blood, then that's another matter altogether.

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19 Apr 2013, 10:51 am

He's 17. Old enough to know what he's doing. If he was 8, or 10, then it would be different, but he's not.



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19 Apr 2013, 10:51 am

If he is under 18 his medical treatment should be decided by doctors.



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19 Apr 2013, 10:56 am

He's mature enough. If he wants to question his religious beliefs and take them for granted in this situation, fine. It's his life, you know.



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19 Apr 2013, 10:58 am

Should Jehovah's Witnesses be forced to accept blood transfusions in life-threatening cases?

Yes. The alternative is to deny him any treatment whatsoever.

The JWs are false prophets, having misinterpreted the Bible to incite fear and doubt in the minds of those they wish to convert.

It wouldn't take a genius to fairly assume that the JWs have also misinterpreted the Bible to maintain that fear and doubt in the minds of their members and keep them ignorant.

Fearful, ignorant people are the most common victims of cult mind-control techniques.

Either force the kid to receive the transfusion, or kick him to the curb.



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19 Apr 2013, 11:08 am

I'm not so sure. I believe adults should be able to refuse any kind of treatment, even if they are doing it because they are brainwashed by a crazy cult. Those parents should be ashamed of themselves.



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19 Apr 2013, 11:15 am

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Those parents should be ashamed of themselves.


£50 says they're immensely proud of themselves and their son. They're quite willing to let him die.

They can go to Hell.



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19 Apr 2013, 11:20 am

I thought it was the Christian Scientists that denied medical treatments. I guess there are others.

He is 17,let him deny it and die. Sounds like natural selection at work.



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19 Apr 2013, 11:22 am

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He is 17,let him deny it and die. Sounds like natural selection at work.


If he knows what he's doing, then he should take the consequences. That way, he can't say he wasn't warned.



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19 Apr 2013, 11:24 am

Tequila wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
Those parents should be ashamed of themselves.


£50 says they're immensely proud of themselves and their son. They're quite willing to let him die.

They can go to Hell.


The son will die for their sins.

The JW people have been spreading their creationist lies in my neighbourhood as well. Probably money down the drain, but I still think they are as*holes for trying.



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19 Apr 2013, 11:56 am

He's 17, and it doesn't sound like his parents are forcing him to do this against his will.



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19 Apr 2013, 11:59 am

As said, if he were younger it would be one thing but 17 is old enough to make decisions for himself.



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19 Apr 2013, 12:01 pm

Tequila wrote:
Cash__ wrote:
He is 17,let him deny it and die. Sounds like natural selection at work.


If he knows what he's doing, then he should take the consequences. That way, he can't say he wasn't warned.


Yes, he can't. Because he's dead.



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19 Apr 2013, 12:06 pm

So it's really rather here nor there then, ain't it? If he's dead, I mean.



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19 Apr 2013, 12:27 pm

He's under the age of majority but so what, let him croak.
The world won't miss one JW.


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19 Apr 2013, 12:31 pm

trollcatman wrote:
I'm not so sure. I believe adults should be able to refuse any kind of treatment, even if they are doing it because they are brainwashed by a crazy cult. Those parents should be ashamed of themselves.


The parents should be allowed to make the decision, not the state. His rights are being violated; even if he's nuts.