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29 Apr 2013, 7:17 pm

I used to be pretty tolerant and respectful of religion, even though I myself amd not a believer. Lately though, I have become increasingly weary of people shoving their religion down my throat while claiming that they are being repressed and attacked for their religious views.

Christians, with a church on every corner, and nonstop religious programming on tv, radio and online, are scrteaming that they are under attack because people expect them to legally abide by the provisions of the Constitution of the United States. Christians are, more and more lately, overstepping those boundaries, to the point even of trying to redefine or reinterpret the Constitution in their favor, and find ways to shove religious teachings into the public classroom and attack science and biology, thus turning American children into blithering idiots.

I guess that would make American children easier to control and manipulate and brainwash, which is exactly what religion is all about in the first place.

Well, I for one, have had enough. In my county you can literally stand on any urban street corner and see at least one church within walking distance no matter which way you turn your head. Bibles in motels, hospitals and bus stops. I cannot even go into my local bookstore and open books about any other religion without finding christian literature and propaganda stuck between the pages of every chapter. In my apartment building people leave christian literature strewn about on every available common area table. In my local VA hospital, christian literature is even laying about in all of the restrooms.

Yet these hypocrite, sanctimonious as*holes cry that THEY are being oppressed.

Well, I refuse to take it any more. I have come to the point that anytime I see Christian literature placed in public domain, that I liberate it from public view and introduce it to the nearest trash receptacle.., in as many pieces as I can discreetly mange to rip it into befor I make my deposit.

In short. Feel free to believe whatever you wish in your church or your home but other than that.. KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!!

From now on I will look at your randomly placed pieces of propaganda as a personal attack on me.



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29 Apr 2013, 7:28 pm

Agree with most of that.



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29 Apr 2013, 7:46 pm

The stories I heard this week about the schools in Mississippi locking children in classrooms in public schools with teachers blocking all of the exits while ministers preached gospel and hell brimstone, and the story about the Creation museum which teaches that all of the wars, global warming, natural catastrophes etc that we are experiencing lately are a minifestation of gods disgust at humanity for teaching evolution.. all of this just PISSED ME OFF to the point of no return



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29 Apr 2013, 7:49 pm

Yeah, I can see why you feel that way.

Just don't go down the path where you start believing that ALL Christians are that way, because they aren't all bad.

Remember, all religions have hypocrites and bad people. Not just Christianity.


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29 Apr 2013, 7:53 pm

the problem is that the Christians who are like that are so much more forceful and loud than those who are not, just as the good muslims are not loud enough to drown out the craziness of the extremists. It should be good Christians and good muslims who fight the hardest to preserve their good name instead of the victims of the madness having to do the fighting.



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29 Apr 2013, 7:54 pm

I agree with you on that, as well.


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29 Apr 2013, 11:22 pm

khaoz wrote:
the problem is that the Christians who are like that are so much more forceful and loud than those who are not, just as the good muslims are not loud enough to drown out the craziness of the extremists. It should be good Christians and good muslims who fight the hardest to preserve their good name instead of the victims of the madness having to do the fighting.


And how exactly would you propose that be done?

And while locking kids in a room is most definitely not cool, what is wrong with leaving a bible in a motel room? It's not like you're being forced to read it. What is wrong with Christians having churches? There are a lot of churches, but there are also a lot of christians. Are you proposing that christians should not be allowed to build churches, or should be restricted to a number of churches insufficient for the corresponding number of christians?



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29 Apr 2013, 11:31 pm

To be fair there should also be other religious texts available,the Quran,Bhagavad Gita and others.I doubt if anyone has read any of those Bibles.


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29 Apr 2013, 11:39 pm

The "Bibles in hotel rooms" thing dates back to an order called the giddians (though I have no idea if I've spelt that right) which started leaving them there a long time ago, though I'm not sure how long. It may be that some Christian order are still the ones doing it, and if it's the hotel owners doing it, shouldn't they be able to do what they want with their hotel?



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29 Apr 2013, 11:48 pm

Yeah,I think it's spelled Gideons,it's in a Beatles song,Rocky Raccoon.
They can do what they want,but I'd rather read Greek Mythology than the Bible.Don't get me wrong,there are beautiful parts in the Bible,but I don't think Jesus would have much to do with organized religion,he would be in the soup kitchen feeding the hungry,not telling them they are going to burn in hell.


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30 Apr 2013, 12:07 am

I really don't think Chrstians are exactly flourishing either. (Aren't Christians over in the Midde East pretty much being driven off the face of the Earth?) True, most Christians in the US don't have to worry about that. (Yet.) Besides, none of the catastrophes aren't because of the teaching of evolution, they're merely some of the signs of the end times.



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30 Apr 2013, 12:18 am

While I think Jesus would probably prefer his modern-day disciples spent more time on charity and less time on fire and brimstone, I think it's quite a stretch to say that he wouldn't have anything to do with organized religion. After all, he started the church. It may have been less organized back then, but depending on your definition of organized religion it may still qualify.



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30 Apr 2013, 12:52 am

It's probably part of human nature, as regardless of where you are - majority or minority - everyone seems to constantly whined about offended or oppressed. This includes religion, race, ethnicity, hobbies, and many other things.



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30 Apr 2013, 1:48 am

Maybe these self-martyred Christians should spend some time over in countries where Christianity is illegal and then they can experience real persecution first-hand. Not being able to discriminate against LGBT people, and being increasingly called out for hate speech against them, does not constitute persecution (I personally think it's the rest of society coming to its senses).

It especially pisses me off that these people have the nerve to make their "hardships" (lol) sound like the be-all, end-all of human oppression. So some old florist in Washington state is being sued for discriminating against a gay couple? Boo-f***ing-hoo. Meanwhile, a gay couple living in some red state hellhole is being denied hospital visitation rights - one of them is waiting around having no idea if their partner is dead because their homophobic jerk-off relatives refuse to let them see their partner - because that state does not recognize their relationship. One of those scenarios is truly f***ed up, and here's a hint: it's not the former. Anybody with any shred of human decency could recognize that.


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30 Apr 2013, 2:04 am

khaoz wrote:
From now on I will look at your randomly placed pieces of propaganda as a personal attack on me.


Yet another hysterical, paranoid rant by a "rational" atheist on wrong planet. There is another hysterical thread bitching about how science was being "attacked" by religion and was obviously the "enemy" of science and needed to be destroyed.

The religious right does not have the power it once wielded. The days of operation rescue and Jerry Falwell are gone (sigh of relief). Republicans are starting to brag about their gay sons for the sake of votes in the next election...

I don't get it. Christians have persecution built into their theology/ideology, so what's the atheist excuse for paranoia?



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30 Apr 2013, 3:10 am

khaoz wrote:
I used to be pretty tolerant and respectful of religion, even though I myself amd not a believer. Lately though, I have become increasingly weary of people shoving their religion down my throat while claiming that they are being repressed and attacked for their religious views.
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So maybe you can appreciate what Christians have to put up with having your religious views that we all evolved shoved down our throats every opportunity you get.

For instance, at the moment Iam reading a book about loneliness, I paid money for this book, I was expecting to read about loneliness, all its going on about is evolution.

Every time I would watch a programme on TV about the natural world, there would be constant pushing of the evolution dogma.

When I was at school, we didnt even get the choice to learn about creation, we had to have the evolutionists forcing their crap down our throats 100%

Why cant you people keep your insane view to yourselves?, what makes you feel you have to constantly ram it down our throats?, it makes me sick.