Am I the only AS people who isn't a misanthrope?

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14 Oct 2013, 5:08 am

I'm not really much of a "people person" in the sense that I feel uncomfortable having to be social, but I'm not a misanthropic Malthusian vegan either. I care very deeply about justice and all that stuff. I'm very much a socialist and I lean towards pacifism, I don't like violence and feel like all violence is immoral though some violence might in rare cases be necessary to prevent even greater immorality, for example the Jews uprising against Nazis was probably justified.

I don't think human beings are less moral than animals like many believe, animals do violent stuff and mostly look after their own too. Also most human beings, like most animals will be friendly to you until your interests conflict with their own.



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14 Oct 2013, 5:37 am

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Am I the only AS people who isn't a misanthrope?
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no, because you are not a "people" but a "person"



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14 Oct 2013, 6:22 am

actually, to address the subject of the topic, i will say that i have never had much interest in who people are.

i think that there are far too many people on the earth, and i think that 70% of people on earth have opinions that i not only do not share, but that i also deplore.

the deforestation in south america to feed the unwanted glut of people being born there is a self defeating process. the expansion of human occupation of what was once the deepest, darkest and uncharted jungles is like a bacterial infestation that will extract every scintilla of value from a natural self sustaining environment in order to completely dominate every niche in nature and feed it's hedonistic desires. when there is nothing more to be sucked out, they will die off.

i see the wheels of industry everywhere i go. trucks, road working equipment and cranes etc, and i wonder why humans take for granted that they own the land they are usurping and refashioning in order to serve their own interests. many people will say "because they can. it's called evolutionary advantage"

but to me, human expansion is very much expressed by the song "yellow taxi" ("they paved paradise and put up a parking lot").

individually, i do like people. i think that almost everyone is inherently good at heart. only psychopaths are are exempt from my belief.
i trust that a toothless crack addict who is outrageously unhygienic would try their hardest to help a person in distress.
i think that a well groomed succesful psychopath would merely raise an eyebrow and watch with interest the demise of the person in distress (if there were no other witnesses).

but overall, i have no desire to have friends, and i have never felt "lonely". i simply do not care what is happening out there. as long as i am fed and happy and engaged in some mental pursuit, i am content.

a girl once asked me how i felt about the idea that i was the end of my branch of my family tree if i did not bond with a girl and have children, and i said "there has to be a final point where the flower grows".
so what. if i fall in love, then it will certainly be destroyed in time by death, so what is the use? any descendants i could leave i would have no knowledge of after i die.
yeah....whatever.



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14 Oct 2013, 6:51 am

I wasnt aware that there were huge numbers of aspies who were "malthusian vegans". On top of that gun toting, venison-shooting, right-to-life aspies, are not uncommon.

There are all kinds of aspies with all kinds of combinations of beliefs.

Aspies tend to be more hermit-like than most folks. But I dont think that the majority of aspies have reverse prejudice against their own species to the extreme that you're talking about.



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14 Oct 2013, 7:16 am

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I wasnt aware that there were huge numbers of aspies who were "malthusian vegans". On top of that gun toting, venison-shooting, right-to-life aspies, are not uncommon.

There are all kinds of aspies with all kinds of combinations of beliefs.

Aspies tend to be more hermit-like than most folks. But I doOnt think that the majority of aspies have reverse prejudice against their own species to the extreme that you're talking about.

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14 Oct 2013, 8:59 am

At the moment I am extreme inter-sectional humanist.

But I am undiagnosed, so.


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14 Oct 2013, 9:04 am

I like people. :oops:



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14 Oct 2013, 9:46 am

No.

I care very much about people, but I do so in my own way and on my own terms.


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14 Oct 2013, 10:02 am

Nah, I like people and society generally and even though many individual people bore me, I don't wish harm on them. People are fascinatingly complicated, I can't help admire the human race.



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14 Oct 2013, 10:18 am

Jojopa wrote:
Nah, I like people and society generally and even though many individual people bore me, I don't wish harm on them. People are fascinatingly complicated, I can't help admire the human race.


Sounds about right for me, too.

I think there is a communication barrier between me and others that has sometimes made people not like me in a way that seems unfair, but makes sense when their perspective is considered. I dislike them for that treatment of me, but would far rather that we all get along. I think the achievements of the species are marvelous.



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14 Oct 2013, 12:24 pm

donnie_darko wrote:
I'm not really much of a "people person" in the sense that I feel uncomfortable having to be social, but I'm not a misanthropic Malthusian vegan either. I care very deeply about justice and all that stuff. I'm very much a socialist and I lean towards pacifism, I don't like violence and feel like all violence is immoral though some violence might in rare cases be necessary to prevent even greater immorality, for example the Jews uprising against Nazis was probably justified.

I don't think human beings are less moral than animals like many believe, animals do violent stuff and mostly look after their own too. Also most human beings, like most animals will be friendly to you until your interests conflict with their own.


I think neurotypicals are actually more misanthropic.

It just doesn't appear that way because they are sociable but in reality are just using their social powers to satisfy their own ends.


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14 Oct 2013, 2:27 pm

I feel like I constantly fluctuate between hatred and love. Sometimes I succumb to semi-religious myopia, other times I have fantasies about flamethrowers and the screams of the dying. It is necessary to cultivate a certain detachment, I think.



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16 Oct 2013, 1:11 am

thomas81 wrote:

I think neurotypicals are actually more misanthropic.

It just doesn't appear that way because they are sociable but in reality are just using their social powers to satisfy their own ends.


Hmmmm, true a lot of people with AS have an idealism/innocence that NTs seem to lack.



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16 Oct 2013, 1:12 am

thomas81 wrote:

I think neurotypicals are actually more misanthropic.

It just doesn't appear that way because they are sociable but in reality are just using their social powers to satisfy their own ends.


Hmmmm, true a lot of people with AS have an idealism/innocence that NTs seem to lack.



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16 Oct 2013, 2:26 am

donnie_darko wrote:
I'm not really much of a "people person" in the sense that I feel uncomfortable having to be social, but I'm not a misanthropic Malthusian vegan either. I care very deeply about justice and all that stuff. I'm very much a socialist and I lean towards pacifism, I don't like violence and feel like all violence is immoral though some violence might in rare cases be necessary to prevent even greater immorality, for example the Jews uprising against Nazis was probably justified.

I don't think human beings are less moral than animals like many believe, animals do violent stuff and mostly look after their own too. Also most human beings, like most animals will be friendly to you until your interests conflict with their own.


The phrasing of your thread title, followed by your opening sentence, suggests that you are saying "AS people" are "misanthropic malthusian vegans". Is this something you believe to be the case? I'm asking for clarification because it's hard to know how to respond to the rest of your post without first gauging what you mean by this.



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