Dominicans of Haitian Descent Now Stateless

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24 Oct 2013, 11:13 am

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/24/world ... 31024&_r=0

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SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic — For generations, people of Haitian descent have been an inextricable part of life here, often looked at with suspicion and dismay, but largely relied on all the same to clean rooms, build things cheaply and provide the backbreaking labor needed on the country’s vast sugar plantations.

Now, intensifying a long and furious debate over their place in this society, the nation’s top court has declared that the children of undocumented Haitian migrants — even those born on Dominican soil decades ago — are no longer entitled to citizenship, throwing into doubt the status of tens of thousands of people here who have never known any other national identity.

“I am Dominican,” said Ana María Belique, 27, who was born in the Dominican Republic and has never lived anywhere else, but has been unable to register for college or renew her passport because her birth certificate was no longer accepted. “I don’t know Haiti. I don’t have family or friends there. This is my home.”

...The United Nations high commissioner for refugees warned that the decision “may deprive tens of thousands of people of nationality,” while the regional alliance of Caribbean nations, which the Dominican Republic has sought to join, condemned how masses of people are “being plunged into a constitutional, legal and administrative vacuum.”

“It is remarkably sweeping in terms of numbers: over 200,000 made stateless — a staggering figure,” said Laura Bingham, who tracks citizenship issues for the Open Society Justice Initiative. She and other legal experts called it one of the more sweeping rulings denying nationality in recent years.

...An estimated 200,000 people born in this country have Haitian parents, according to the last census, by far the largest immigrant group here and thus the one most widely affected by the ruling. Haitian immigrants occupy the lowest rungs of society here, and have for generations, living in urban slums or squalid sugar plantation camps where wage abuse remains common, as a United States Department of Labor report found last month.

For decades, Haitians, housed in remote shantytowns known as bateys, were brought over on contracts for sugar plantations to cut cane under the blistering sun. Many still labor in the fields, while others work as maids, construction workers and in other low-paying jobs....


In the USA, we have the 14th amendment, which will make it somewhat difficult for our T-baggers eventually to deport all of the people that they would like to deport. Ah, those pesky Reconstruction Amendments.



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24 Oct 2013, 11:14 pm

Not at all. Born of parents subject to the jurisdiction therein. If your parents are Mexican, or other non citizens, your nationality is the same as theirs.

Born on a plane flying over America, going from Mexico to Canada. Parents Mexican, no citizanship in America or Canada.

They might get an American Birth Certificate, but they are not citizens.

They are not being made Stateless, they are Hatians, born abroad, where their Hatian parents were working.

Americans abroad who have children produce American Citizens.

A Nigerian Birthing Clinic on a ship three miles offshore, does not produce Americans.


It is something that has to be dealt with. The best would be a Guest Worker program.

Undocumented does not mean lacks an American passport or Visa, undocumented lacks a name, an unrecorded being that cannot be tracked, located, with an off the books life.

Last residence, a Mexican jail, for not being a Mexican, broke out, crossed the border, and are now our problem.

Wanted for murder in three south American countries, hiding out in the US, with no means of support.

Things get hot for the gangs of El Salvador, Columbia, and they need some new turf.

They are just seeking freedom, from the cell, firing squad, or hanging from the end of a rope.



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25 Oct 2013, 6:28 am

You've not heard of Birth Tourism?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... i/2784797/

A tourist is subject to the laws, and hence under the jurisdiction, of the country that he is visiting. An ambassador who enjoys diplomatic immunity is not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_tourism