The MRA movement makes sense

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Not the sense that it claims, obviously.

A Good Men’s Rights Movement Is Hard to Find

Meh.

Smart guys will be bright enough to see through the garbage. Dumb guys won't.

It's not so much an issue of MRAs, it's just the age-old problem of dumb people. The majority of men I know are smart and don't go for woman-hating.

Interesting perspective. Thanks.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... t-mrm.html

here's another one.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ1Ix4tR1AM[/youtube]

For that kind of man, it's better for everyone if he 'goes his own way' rather than get frustrated trying to inflict his ideology on women who aren't interested in validating it.

Men have a lot of problems that women don't. The funny thing is, people who call themselves "feminists" are the main people who have identified these problems and have developed theory about how to fix them. MRA's like to ignore that particular part of feminist history - it isn't very convenient for them.

I can't speak for the present as my only experience is of the mid-90's during my parent's divorce. During that time my parents separated and my sister and I went to live with out mother. Who very quickly moved into a new permanent relationship with one of my Father's very close friends. Although the relationship between my mother and her new partner seemed to improve her happiness, it came at a fairly serious cost. He decided that he did not like me and took to beating me. From this, I told my mother and father and my the former told me to get along and the latter was furious. His fury nearly led my father take become quite violent but before he could complain to the police, my mother accused him of being physically violent towards her during their relationship. Although the accusation was false, it was enough to ensure that the family court revoked my father's visitation rights and as a result I lost access to the only person who was supporting me through a very rough time.

Eventually, after some very old fashioned policing by our local constables, my stepfather backed off quite a bit. I was able to see my father after sneaking off from school. He took me to the police and they took my statement and then had to take action against my father for violating a family court order. It was enough for the court to take action and I was allowed to live primarily with my father. There was a little stipulation in the ruling, I had to go back and spent time with my mother on every second weakened. What a great idea that was, sending me back to a place where I was physically in danger. Eventually after six months of that, where on every second weekend the police had to take me to my stepfather's house because I refused to go voluntarily (the police hated this by the way and always apologised for having to do it), the family court gave me the choice to live with my father permanently. My sister however had to stay with my mother and the family was totally broken up and my father had exhausted his middle class wealth in order to get me away from my stepfather. As a result we spent the next 5 years dependent on the Salvation Army living on very little money, as jobs for people my father's age are not easy to come by.

The story has a happy ending though. My father took care of me, so now my fiancé and I take care of him. The battle took a hell of a toll on him (he looks like he is 20 years older than he is) but he is still a pretty awesome dad. He worked two jobs, one of them night shift to put me through university and then helped me pay for grad school in America. When I got into a top school in the States we burned a collection of statistics we had beaten to get to where we are today.

I cannot stomach the MRA movement, it has too many very nasty people in its ranks and to be honest I can see why the system had a preference for taking my mother's side a priori. What happened however was that the system did very lasting damage to my family despite its best intentions. Thus I take issue with people who say there is nothing to discuss and to move along. The reforms are obviously not complete and more work needs to be done. Fathers will have a voice in where the system goes to from here and shutting them out or creating a negative association with a political movement will do nobody any good except those with vested interests in the status quo. I don't hate women, I have been in a happy committed relationship for 5 years and she earns more than I do. So there are obviously benefits to the feminist revolution but separating the debate from men and treating cases with ideological lenses that allow people to be silenced because of what they are not who they are or what they have done will do none of us any good over the long term.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... icdyBH48hY

wow, that really sucks, 91. I feel personally very lucky that when my parents split up, they kept my brother and I out of the fight and they both made sure that we still had two parents.

No matter how much one side hates the other, there's no excuse for lying about one's former partner in court, in an attempt to hurt them or deny them visitation without cause.