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Which country is most evil?
USA 24%  24%  [ 15 ]
UK 6%  6%  [ 4 ]
Israel 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
France 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
China 5%  5%  [ 3 ]
Palestinian Territories 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Syria 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Iran 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Saudi Arabia 5%  5%  [ 3 ]
North Korea 35%  35%  [ 22 ]
Other (state) 10%  10%  [ 6 ]
Total votes : 62

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14 Nov 2013, 4:51 pm

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14 Nov 2013, 5:11 pm

I don't believe countries are evil. I might think the people running them are evil, and what they do to their people is evil and what they tell them, and I might think that their religious creed or their totalitarian personality cult natures are disgusting, but I don't think any country is evil.

Not even Saudi Arabia, if you were wondering. Some of the people there I'd be happy to go for a drink with - alcohol or not. :)

(Believe it or not, there's a Islamic sheikh - who is also an Irish folk singer! - that I've been praising to the heavens recently.)

Some of the women iiving in these despotic hellholes (like North Korea and other places) are absolute saints. I admire their character.



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14 Nov 2013, 5:12 pm

You are speaking, of course about the behavior of the governments of these countries, not the people.
Personally, as an American, I am beyond appalled and embarrassed of the actions of Washington DC.


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14 Nov 2013, 8:38 pm

pete1061 wrote:
You are speaking, of course about the behavior of the governments of these countries, not the people.
Personally, as an American, I am beyond appalled and embarrassed of the actions of Washington DC.


Why do you hold the U.S. to a higher standard than other nations. Do you believe in multiple standards of goodness and justice?

The U.S. is run by politicians who are base and crooked like ALL the politicians of ALL the nations. We are governed by scum. The main difference is our scum is elected scum.

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14 Nov 2013, 9:45 pm

I don't like the current US government or where our country is headed, but to say it's the worst is rather far-fetched, I think. I admit that I know little about the US's influence is places like the Middle East though, so perhaps it is more justifiable than I realize.



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14 Nov 2013, 9:49 pm

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I don't like the current US government or where our country is headed, but to say it's the worst is rather far-fetched, I think. I admit that I know little about the US's influence is places like the Middle East though, so perhaps it is more justifiable than I realize.


If we would get busy and pave the U.S. from east to west and from the Canadian border down to the Rio Grande with breeder reactors and thorium reactors we could generate so much electricity without burning anything that we could forget about the Middle East entirely. We could finally tell the sheiks of Araby to go f*ck their camels. We could also tell the Israel Lobby that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will look out for them, but Uncle Sam has other and more pressing priorities.

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15 Nov 2013, 3:01 am

Speaking as someone sympathetic to rightist Zionism...

All monetary aid to Israel should be stopped.

Hear that, O lovers of Filastin?

Oh, and all aid to anything remotely resembling anything Palestinian should be stopped. Their hatred - as encouraged by the Arabs - is a major part of the problem.

So no funding terrorist prisoners. To begin with.



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15 Nov 2013, 5:08 am

I voted Syria - 2 years of killing your own citizens makes you pretty evil in my view.

Other contenders:
Saudia Arabia and Iran - half their populations are second class citizens.
North Korea - ehm, everyone is a second class citizen after the Great Leader. It is a country-sized prison.



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15 Nov 2013, 5:22 am

According to historic statistic, is must be the Britains.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9653 ... bourg.html



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15 Nov 2013, 6:43 am

Tequila wrote:
I don't believe countries are evil. I might think the people running them are evil, and what they do to their people is evil and what they tell them, and I might think that their religious creed or their totalitarian personality cult natures are disgusting, but I don't think any country is evil.

This.

I'd probably put Assad as the most evil political leader. Even IF everything he says is true, he has still killed too many civilians whilst fighting Al Qaeda. And I don't think everything he says is true.

Then the North Korean elite are monstrous. Leaving aside their treatment of their civilians, they are the only country in the world that threatens to end the world. Even if that is empty talk, it is still a sign of evil.

Historically, Britain and the USA would be up there (Britain for colonialism and a part in the slave trade, the USA for maintaining slavery, nuking Japan, and being so extremely anti-communist it went to war with Vietnam, destroyed Afghanistan's stable government, and wouldn't be nice to the USSR), but right now I think we're amongst the good guys, though not the best guys. Maybe our size (or proximity to America) means we have to do things that smaller European nations don't have to.



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15 Nov 2013, 7:14 am

Do you mean the country that does the most evil or the country that is the most evil. If the former than U.S. That is because we are the most powerful and can do more things. If the latter, I have no idea. It is probably some tiny country that I know next to nothing about.


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15 Nov 2013, 12:27 pm

Ironicly I voted the USA!


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15 Nov 2013, 12:53 pm

Are we talking per capita or in total?
Historically done the most harm to the world or does the most harm in the present?
(see how I implied evil is doing harm not meaning harm?)

I think US/UK does the most evil presently and historically.

Saudi/Israel tie for having the highest level of evil per capita / most malignant intent .


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15 Nov 2013, 5:17 pm

Ireland, obviously.


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15 Nov 2013, 6:00 pm

After rethinking it, I want to change my vote to Canada.
Watch the movie "Canadian Bacon", and you will be suspicious too :P


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15 Nov 2013, 9:40 pm

ruveyn wrote:

Why do you hold the U.S. to a higher standard than other nations. Do you believe in multiple standards of goodness and justice?


The USA has the privilege of material abundance, economic dominance and political objectivity.

Countries such as North Korea and Cuba are in a defacto state of war against a much larger aggressor with the associated conditioning that comes with that.
ruveyn wrote:
The U.S. is run by politicians who are base and crooked like ALL the politicians of ALL the nations. We are governed by scum. The main difference is our scum is elected scum.


Elections aren't the be all and end all of democracy.

North Korea, Cuba and China may be single party states but the United States is a single ideology state. The end game is more or less the same thing. In fact, there is greater difference of opinion within the Cuban government than there is between the Democrat and Republican party.

I've said for a long time now, that the healthiest democracies are the likes of Latin America, especially Venezuela. Not only is there plural elections with high voter turn outs, all ideological poles are represented with realistic chances of contention of office.


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