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21 Nov 2013, 6:47 pm

Obviously, terrorism is one of the most concerning topics in today's society and it is clear that to help solve this world wide problem we need to first look inward at the roots of our mistakes, in order to further prevent future acts that will inevitably cause our world more pain. By first looking at ourselves, and the problems that we face in the U.S., we will be able to understand more thoroughly, the mistakes that we make and the problems that we cause for others to be hatred toward us. One of the main problems that faces this world today is the constant repugnance that each country shows toward one another.

In order to make this world operate more peacefully, we need to be able to understand one another's point of views and most of all be able to admit to our own mistakes and be willing to change to better our world. The U.S. needs to withdraw from others lives, and put an end to our constant selfishness of wanting to control the world. By doing these things the world could have a new outlook and a better grip on the future.

During the Reformation their were definitely some small acts of terror that occurred. Although they mostly happened within, they still established from the same reasons that we face today. When people were not happy with the decisions and judgments of the higher power they would revolt by harm. Citizens would most often not agree with political and religious acts and rapidly, these disagreements would break out into uncontrollable wars. All in all, acts of terror have dated back long ago and without looking inward and facing our own problems before others, there will be no prevention of terror, as it will continue to take a devastating toll on our world.

I do believe, however, the main reason we get targeted by terrorists is because of our status as the only remaining superpower in the world. What do you think?


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21 Nov 2013, 10:17 pm

I think worrying about terrorism is a waste of time. Even if you use the statistics for prevented attacks, the probability of dying to a terrorist attack is around 1 in 2 million. I'd rather give the money we spend on it back to the taxpayers.



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23 Nov 2013, 11:04 pm

adb wrote:
I think worrying about terrorism is a waste of time. Even if you use the statistics for prevented attacks, the probability of dying to a terrorist attack is around 1 in 2 million. I'd rather give the money we spend on it back to the taxpayers.


Agreed, the threat of terrorism will always, always, always be out there. There's little sense in spending ourselves to death in the pursuit of security when we'll be constantly in the threat of default, shutdown, and reclamation by those we owe money to. And that doesn't even touch on what the american people are going through, even now, because of said spending. In this war, there is no greater enemy than ourselves (specifically, our own government's intolerable actions). And in this war, we will have beaten our own nation into the ground with the very fists we carry our greed and lust for power with. It's pretty sad actually.
America is lost if this keeps up.


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23 Nov 2013, 11:09 pm

Jaden wrote:
adb wrote:
I think worrying about terrorism is a waste of time. Even if you use the statistics for prevented attacks, the probability of dying to a terrorist attack is around 1 in 2 million. I'd rather give the money we spend on it back to the taxpayers.


Agreed, the threat of terrorism will always, always, always be out there. There's little sense in spending ourselves to death in the pursuit of security when we'll be constantly in the threat of default, shutdown, and reclamation by those we owe money to. And that doesn't even touch on what the american people are going through, even now, because of said spending. In this war, there is no greater enemy than ourselves (specifically, our own government's intolerable actions). And in this war, we will have beaten our own nation into the ground with the very fists we carry our greed and lust for power with. It's pretty sad actually.
America is lost if this keeps up.
Americas answer is go comepletly ape s**t and use predetor drones in middle eastern countries and cause terror on their own.


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23 Nov 2013, 11:10 pm

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23 Nov 2013, 11:44 pm

AspieOtaku wrote:
Jaden wrote:
adb wrote:
I think worrying about terrorism is a waste of time. Even if you use the statistics for prevented attacks, the probability of dying to a terrorist attack is around 1 in 2 million. I'd rather give the money we spend on it back to the taxpayers.


Agreed, the threat of terrorism will always, always, always be out there. There's little sense in spending ourselves to death in the pursuit of security when we'll be constantly in the threat of default, shutdown, and reclamation by those we owe money to. And that doesn't even touch on what the american people are going through, even now, because of said spending. In this war, there is no greater enemy than ourselves (specifically, our own government's intolerable actions). And in this war, we will have beaten our own nation into the ground with the very fists we carry our greed and lust for power with. It's pretty sad actually.
America is lost if this keeps up.
Americas answer is go comepletly ape sh** and use predetor drones in middle eastern countries and cause terror on their own.


lol exactly, it's madness. Then there's this whole mess with the NSA (a.k.a the govs fallguy plan) spying on allies, which only makes everything worse.


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23 Nov 2013, 11:49 pm

The only response to a threat is an even greater threat.

How else could the mods keep order around here?



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24 Nov 2013, 4:32 pm

Fnord wrote:
The only response to a threat is an even greater threat.

How else could the mods keep order around here?


The problem with using force to deal with a situation is that those with the power are often hated and ridiculed as being a totalitarian power (the u.s. gov is getting there quickly as being a real problem), and the citizens are often expected to do something about it, even when they no longer have the power to do so (which is the case here in america now). Right now, the american gov is losing serious credibility as being a lawful establishment. Between PRISM, their latest inability to properly serve the people, and their fascination in getting into wars that have nothing to do with us, all of which is costing america more and more money every day, I don't know what's worse.

At this point, the threat of terrorism is rather small compared to 12 years ago, and the pursuit of ridding the world of terror is both unrealistic, and costly.

On that note, the proper way to end the govs b.s. is to threaten to overthrow them (which we are within our constitutional rights to do so), but I can tell you right now, they won't take a petition of resignation seriously, it will be civil war before the current administration gives up their power, especially the T.P. Republicans in office (they continually shove the government into chaos when they don't get their way, then they play the blame game, and we have to pay for it).


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24 Nov 2013, 5:15 pm

Jaden wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
Jaden wrote:
adb wrote:
I think worrying about terrorism is a waste of time. Even if you use the statistics for prevented attacks, the probability of dying to a terrorist attack is around 1 in 2 million. I'd rather give the money we spend on it back to the taxpayers.


Agreed, the threat of terrorism will always, always, always be out there. There's little sense in spending ourselves to death in the pursuit of security when we'll be constantly in the threat of default, shutdown, and reclamation by those we owe money to. And that doesn't even touch on what the american people are going through, even now, because of said spending. In this war, there is no greater enemy than ourselves (specifically, our own government's intolerable actions). And in this war, we will have beaten our own nation into the ground with the very fists we carry our greed and lust for power with. It's pretty sad actually.
America is lost if this keeps up.
Americas answer is go comepletly ape sh** and use predetor drones in middle eastern countries and cause terror on their own.


lol exactly, it's madness. Then there's this whole mess with the NSA (a.k.a the govs fallguy plan) spying on allies, which only makes everything worse.
I tell ya this much they provoked the wrong country, Japan learned their lesson the hard way when they attacked Pearl Harbor, the result was this. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwkyPvlWPM0[/youtube] America tends to go overboard in retaliation for a reason to ensure they dont mess with America ever again or face casualties so great there is nothing left.


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24 Nov 2013, 5:49 pm

Overboard you say! The bastards attempted to wreck our fleet, kill over 4000 of our people and make unrighteous and unholy war on several and sundry nations. Then the the torture or dismember prisoners they took?

The Japanese asked for it and they got it.

The best way for the Japanese not to get a A-bomb or two down their throats was not to start the war in the first place.

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24 Nov 2013, 5:57 pm

Fnord wrote:
The only response to a threat is an even greater threat.

How else could the mods keep order around here?


The threat comes from individuals willing to commit suicide.

And you're proposing to stop with a "greater threat"?

A greater threat than WHAT? Greater than death? What does THAT mean?



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24 Nov 2013, 9:48 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Fnord wrote:
The only response to a threat is an even greater threat.

How else could the mods keep order around here?


The threat comes from individuals willing to commit suicide.

And you're proposing to stop with a "greater threat"?

A greater threat than WHAT? Greater than death? What does THAT mean?


Have you ever heard the Old Saying: Kill them all and let God bury the bodies?

Look up how the Catholic Church handled the Cathar revolt in France.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albigensian_Crusade

In particular look at footnote 18.

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25 Nov 2013, 3:02 am

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Overboard you say! The bastards attempted to wreck our fleet, kill over 4000 of our people and make unrighteous and unholy war on several and sundry nations. Then the the torture or dismember prisoners they took?

The Japanese asked for it and they got it.

The best way for the Japanese not to get a A-bomb or two down their throats was not to start the war in the first place.

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They attacked a military installation. We attacked two large civilian population centers with the most devastating weapons that existed in order to scare the USSR by showing them that a little thing like "thousands of civilian deaths" wouldn't stop us from tossing nukes around.



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25 Nov 2013, 1:07 pm

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Overboard you say! The bastards attempted to wreck our fleet, kill over 4000 of our people and make unrighteous and unholy war on several and sundry nations. Then the the torture or dismember prisoners they took?

The Japanese asked for it and they got it.

The best way for the Japanese not to get a A-bomb or two down their throats was not to start the war in the first place.

ruveyn


They attacked a military installation. We attacked two large civilian population centers with the most devastating weapons that existed in order to scare the USSR by showing them that a little thing like "thousands of civilian deaths" wouldn't stop us from tossing nukes around.


Under the then existing "law of war" Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were legitimate targets to attack. They were not declared open cities and there were anti-aircraft batteries and fighter planes defending them.

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25 Nov 2013, 1:18 pm

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Overboard you say! The bastards attempted to wreck our fleet, kill over 4000 of our people and make unrighteous and unholy war on several and sundry nations. Then the the torture or dismember prisoners they took?

The Japanese asked for it and they got it.

The best way for the Japanese not to get a A-bomb or two down their throats was not to start the war in the first place.

ruveyn


They attacked a military installation. We attacked two large civilian population centers with the most devastating weapons that existed in order to scare the USSR by showing them that a little thing like "thousands of civilian deaths" wouldn't stop us from tossing nukes around.


Under the then existing "law of war" Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were legitimate targets to attack. They were not declared open cities and there were anti-aircraft batteries and fighter planes defending them.

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The ethics of war and the ethics of basic human decency are entirely different things. The Obama administration has taken a great pains to cover up the killing of civilians by reclassifying them arbitrarily and imprisoning journalists who wanted to expose the truth. Sociopathic policies in regards to armed conflict aren't new, and they aren't finished. But that doesn't mean they should be accepted.



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25 Nov 2013, 5:21 pm

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The ethics of war and the ethics of basic human decency are entirely different things. The Obama administration has taken a great pains to cover up the killing of civilians by reclassifying them arbitrarily and imprisoning journalists who wanted to expose the truth. Sociopathic policies in regards to armed conflict aren't new, and they aren't finished. But that doesn't mean they should be accepted.


When war starts morality and ethics end.

That is the main reason why war is undesirable.

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