Rant about Christianity.

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No offense to anyone, but I've found that Christians are a very corrupt group of people. They go to church and ask for forgiveness every week, then leave church and start sinning again. How about not sinning in the first place? Secondly, there are so many varieties of Christianity, what is right for one person may be completely wrong to another. There is no common ground except that they believe in one and only one God. They are also incredibly pessimistic and scared of death (usually), and this is because they fear what's going to happen after death despite the fact the bible says they are going to heaven. Finally, Christians are a group of people who go into their own little groups. They fight with people of other religions then abandon them by splitting up into little groups in church. I have not heard of many truly happy Christians.
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OK, it's out of my system now .

I know the feeling.

Welcome to the fun world of watching religious nutjobs.

Don't forget a big drink and lots of popcorn!

You don't wanna miss a second of this show!

Have you ever dated one? Now THAT'S a trip.

I'd pay to watch a strong atheist try to take a zealot Christian on a date. I'd be more fun then watching the Pope try to become bomber bait

I guess you have been christian or your family has been. Most people who rant on christianity as a hobby live in a country with rather large share of christian population.
so what? Christians are insincere and two-faced, but then again all of us are in some way. Generalizations don't help. And what's wrong with being pessimistic anyway? Personally, I am pessimistic & I am christian. People usually rant on the phony-happy christian stereotype though. What is more today's societies owe a lot to christianity.
Each to their own.

Yes I live in a primarily Christian country, my family is mostly Christian, and some of my good friends are. But it's not me... I have a friend who attends church and the drama I hear from her is almost as good as the next installment of whatever your favorite soapy is. Plus I've experienced all the drama before. I just don't want to go there.

Don't generalize.

I don't usually make generalizations, I just got a little worked up.

Some of the people I know in person are just great people though. If you think about it, that's all they really are. There are some things in this world that just don't make sense lol. Anyway the rant is over on my behalf.

I now use the term "skeptic" instead of "atheist" when around theist friends. They don't get quite so defensive nor do they see me as a commie bomb-throwing radical. The definition is the same, but it's all about perception. They accept what their leaders say "on faith", while I consider nothing unquestionable. I tell them that it's not that I disagree with them, but that they've failed to convince me. I'm not trying to convince them that their imaginary friend doesn't exist. They're trying to convince me that he does, and so far it hasn't worked. When they realize that they're the salesman, not me, and that we're not adversaries, the dynamic changes considerably. "I seek enlightenment. Tell me why you're 'right'."

Okay just so you know... huge generalizations not to mention it seems to be that you are preaching atheism, is that really any better??? I have never really known a Christian who was "afraid" about what was going to happen after death, at least for them, curious yes, afraid no. Everyone sins you know, sin doesn't really make one "corrupt" and you didn't show how they were any more sinful then others. You have a point with the small groups thing but then again most pastors I have ever had were all about expanding and reaching more people, yes there are people that are only concerned about themselves but there are just as many that are concerned about everyone. Also my youth ministry (sorta former one), has people from just about every Christian faith in America, Lutherns, Methodists, some Catholics, etc, most Christian denominations agree on most everything, Catholics and then Lutherns being the obvious exceptions. Lastly, I am wondering why you choose to single out Christianity, would your rants not also encompass most other relegions.

I'm make it clear that I am not preaching Atheism. After all, I'm an Agnostic not an Atheist. I was just ranting, getting it out of the system.

Whats wrong with being pessimistic? Nothing, its just that Cognitive Therapy completely goes against it, and, since I am someone who used to seek "joy" in pessimism, I can tell you, being "positive" (while realistic) makes a world of difference.

First off, I could care less whether someone worships a tree or a postage stamp as long as he he doesn't violently coerce me to join that said religion. That said...

Merriam-Webster's defines the world corrupt as meaning the following:



You are thus naming 82% of the American population of "corrupt" with at least one of these meanings. Although perhaps you meant that in a modified form as will follow. Do you mean only Christians, or Jews, Muslims, Hundis, ect., as well?



From my rather basic understanding of Christian denominations, that is not their understanding of their own religions. No major Christian (of which I am aware) expects participants never to commit a sin. That would be ridiculous, and in fact contrary to ancient Jewish religious teaching faith in regards to "original sin."

Would you argue that non-religious people are corrupt because they also commit crimes or had moral failings? I understand you never claimed that the non-religious are incorrupt, yet the religious never claimed this either.



False. That makes them monotheists. Judaism, Islam, and (to an extent)Zoroastrianism are monotheistic as well. Judaism is, of course, interconnected with Christianity in a way that Islam, and Zoroastrianism are not. Islam teaches that Christianity, Judaism, and Zoroastrianism are false religions that were invented after the true religion, Islam, was founded.

What connects the Christian churches and dominations is belief in Jesus Christ. The precise nature of this belief varies from small amounts to large degrees. Unitarians, who have traditionally been assigned the title "Christians," do not believe in the deity of Christ. Roman Catholics represent the largest single Church body in the world, and do. The Protestants generally do They stared in the Reformation, are broken up into many sects. One tenant of Martin Luther was the belief that people should be able find their own way to Christ. This has been recently, chronically speaking, adapted by the late Pope John Paul II as finding that people have the right to find their own way to God.



It is good you said usually. Might I provide an example (link) that doesn't fit your illustration. Nevertheless, it is true; human beings do not want to die. They have a strong survival instinct which is built into them and helps them stay alive. I would note that not everyone in Christianity is guaranteed a slot in Heaven (the details here vary a bit)



You will find Christians (and non-Christians) who find common cause will unite. Recently, the conservative religious magazine First Things featured a signed statement among Catholics and Evangelical intellectuals. On, the other hand it is not uncommon to see different religious groups (such as The National Council of Churches) unite with other groups in to deliver left wing messages.



You must not have read the frequent (link) surveys (link) that contradict this. The religious are also more likely to give to charity (link).

I dated a hardcore Christian girl for awhile. It went fine at first when the religion thing was not brought up. But when it was, the relationship went straight down the toilet.

It is possible for a religious and a non-religious person to have a successful relationship I think. It depends both on the people and how they handle, and how they are capable of handle their religiousness/non-religiousness with each other. I was listening on the radio to a scientist who, while I'm not sure was an atheist, was definitely not religious, and he talked about his religious wife. Apparently, they don't really discuss such matters very much.