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28 Jan 2007, 10:19 pm

If anyone has seen the movie, it shows Britain in 2027 as a complete dump full of angry people throwing things at trains and immigrants in cages...Sadly, it's also implied that it's the best country in the world.

Does anyone see the whole world crashing into oblivion and daily existence (even in "first world" countries) becoming a torrent of pain and misery in the near future?



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28 Jan 2007, 10:23 pm

I do not.



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28 Jan 2007, 10:28 pm

:?:

Maybe. Only possibility



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28 Jan 2007, 10:41 pm

Possible, yes. Probable, no.


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28 Jan 2007, 11:32 pm

Oh wow. I can't believe I just found out about this movie. I need to see it.



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29 Jan 2007, 12:22 am

Well, right wing, anti-alien political powers do get power quite often in history.
1930s/1940s Germany and 1990s Bosnia spring to mind as modern examples, but there are examples throughout history and almost every country exhibits anti-alienism to some extent.

I see no reason that this will suddenly change, alto I hope it does.

Will it get as extreme in the UK as it is in Children of Men?
Well, it could and there are those that wish it was, but I don't think it is likely within my lifetime.

Will it get as extreme in non-UK country's as it is in Children of Men?
In some countries it already is.



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29 Jan 2007, 7:24 pm

***SPOILERS AHEAD***

Ok, i saw the movie today and I thought one of the best things about it was that it never explained why women could not have babies. It makes the movie totally interpretive as how what is causing the end of humanity. As for the political undertones in the movie, I would have to say that you're only seeing this world through Theo's perspective. He doesn't know who to trust, the Government or the Fish? He chooses neither and must trust others who have hope. Remember back to the scene where the British Army and Insurgents were fighting and paused when they saw the baby? They saw hope for a moment, but did the stop blaming each other for the infertility? No, they chose to fight on because that is the thing that has been in their mindset for 18 years. This may have to do more with the movie than politics so the mods may want to move this thread.



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04 Feb 2007, 6:08 pm

We've been through adversity before. We probably will again. We had and survived the Great Wars. We'll survive what is to come. As it has been in the past, we will rise from it a wiser, gentler race.



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06 Feb 2007, 1:16 pm

Cyanide wrote:
If anyone has seen the movie, it shows Britain in 2027 as a complete dump full of angry people throwing things at trains and immigrants in cages...Sadly, it's also implied that it's the best country in the world.

Does anyone see the whole world crashing into oblivion and daily existence (even in "first world" countries) becoming a torrent of pain and misery in the near future?


I do. With the way things are going now, especially with global warming being man-made, we are in for it sometime in the near future. We'll probably have to use various resources we never even thought of.



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06 Feb 2007, 4:13 pm

AnonymousAnonymous wrote:
Cyanide wrote:
If anyone has seen the movie, it shows Britain in 2027 as a complete dump full of angry people throwing things at trains and immigrants in cages...Sadly, it's also implied that it's the best country in the world.

Does anyone see the whole world crashing into oblivion and daily existence (even in "first world" countries) becoming a torrent of pain and misery in the near future?


I do. With the way things are going now, especially with global warming being man-made, we are in for it sometime in the near future. We'll probably have to use various resources we never even thought of.


I am a bit more optimistic.
I think that some places will be fine during the environmental crisis, while others will be hell.
Bangledash will be a huge problem, where will put 100 million people?
US will have some temporary water problems, which are possible to solve.
Africa will be devastated, especially the Sahara region.
It is very tough to predict though...

BTW, is children of men about no women in the world? That is a scary thought.


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06 Feb 2007, 5:18 pm

how come no one ever makes a film about a positive future?


it's always "technology has run rampant and is out of our control!!" or "we messed up things for ourselves!! !"


bunch of technophobic de-evolutionay man-apes.



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06 Feb 2007, 9:40 pm

Mithrandir wrote:

BTW, is children of men about no women in the world? That is a scary thought.


No, it's about no women being FERTILE. During the timeset of the movie, the last child born on earth was 18 years prior.

I'm not worried about a random plague of infertility though.



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06 Feb 2007, 10:01 pm

skafather84 wrote:
it's always "technology has run rampant and is out of our control!!"


Im more worried about technology being used to control us.



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07 Feb 2007, 9:51 am

skafather84 wrote:
how come no one ever makes a film about a positive future?


it's always "technology has run rampant and is out of our control!!" or "we messed up things for ourselves!! !"


bunch of technophobic de-evolutionay man-apes.


It's called Star Trek :P (Most of this sort of genre is about warning of what's to come.)



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09 Feb 2007, 11:00 pm

Hitler is always used to illustrate extreme RIGHT wing. Since is National SOCIALISM a right wing phenomona. Extreme left - totalitarian, extreme right - anarchy.