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17 Jan 2014, 5:19 pm

In Age of School Shootings, Lockdown Is the New Fire Drill

So I guess this is a part of life now. Is it the access to weapons; or a cultural phenomenon?


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17 Jan 2014, 5:57 pm

It's purely a propaganda phenomenon. The actual violent crime rate across the US is at a 20 year low.

The leftist Mainstream Media in the US is determined to push the administration's gun grab agenda, so they make sure than any incident that can make people afraid, especially if it involves making them feel their children are in danger, gets top priority and incessant coverage. Just as stories that involve a citizen thwarting a crime or saving a life with a firearm are ignored across the board - those stories only appear in local news media, they never get national coverage.

The old newsroom saw is "If It Bleeds, It Leads." Nothing gets eyes glued to the screen like fear and mayhem. 8O

If you pay attention, you'll also notice that they use lots of calculated misrepresentation - every rifle is "an AR-15 'style' Assault Rifle" (even though they never are), the statement that "there are no background checks done for sales online and at gun shows" is constantly repeated, even though it is absolutely false, the very term "Assault Rifle" is itself a lie - a true "assault rifle" is a fully automatic machine gun, which are only available to licensed collectors after much paperwork and several background checks by the FBI. The guns currently targeted by hysterical politicians are standard semi-automatic (one squeeze, one fire) rifles with a military-looking grip, no more dangerous than any hunting rifle.

There is no 'phenomenon' going on. It seems that way because of the manner in which it's being covered by the Media Propaganda Machine. The truth is, if you want to see a chilling cause-and-effect link between violent behavior in young people in the USA, just delve into the correlation between bizarre homicidal outbursts in young people and the listed side effects of SSRI medications, like Ritalin, Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor, Prozac, et. al. But the MSM isn't going to cover the sins of Big Pharma, for fear of losing all that ad revenue they get advertising Viagra, Levitra, Abilify and Ambien.



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17 Jan 2014, 6:01 pm

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17 Jan 2014, 6:04 pm

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....and, let the flame war begin.....

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17 Jan 2014, 6:11 pm

I suppose there have always been mass killings and the weapons have changed over the years. I think the venues are interesting though - cinemas, malls, schools. Schools I totally get. I think it causes a lot of stress to children to be in that kind of environment. And I guess malls and movies provide a concentration of targets.

It's interesting what you say about medications being a cause of violence. I can see how that could happen, but (having benefited from pharmaceuticals) I don't think we can disregard their benefits.

So I guess you could say that guns shouldn't be gotten rid of because of their misuse. I hope though that one day we can reach a point where it isn't necessary to have weapons to defend yourself, and be constantly on guard. I don't know if that's possible though.


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17 Jan 2014, 6:26 pm

Why are the vast majority of mass killings committed by males? Since 1982 there have been over 60 mass shootings and a woman committed only one of them. All the blame cannot be placed on access to guns, since women have the same access.



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17 Jan 2014, 6:33 pm

Men do seem to enjoy shooting things.


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17 Jan 2014, 6:47 pm

Ann2011 wrote:
Men do seem to enjoy shooting things.


Well, just with my cock...



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17 Jan 2014, 6:54 pm

Willard wrote:
It's purely a propaganda phenomenon. The actual violent crime rate across the US is at a 20 year low.

The leftist Mainstream Media in the US is determined to push the administration's gun grab agenda, so they make sure than any incident that can make people afraid, especially if it involves making them feel their children are in danger, gets top priority and incessant coverage. Just as stories that involve a citizen thwarting a crime or saving a life with a firearm are ignored across the board - those stories only appear in local news media, they never get national coverage.

The old newsroom saw is "If It Bleeds, It Leads." Nothing gets eyes glued to the screen like fear and mayhem. 8O

If you pay attention, you'll also notice that they use lots of calculated misrepresentation - every rifle is "an AR-15 'style' Assault Rifle" (even though they never are), the statement that "there are no background checks done for sales online and at gun shows" is constantly repeated, even though it is absolutely false, the very term "Assault Rifle" is itself a lie - a true "assault rifle" is a fully automatic machine gun, which are only available to licensed collectors after much paperwork and several background checks by the FBI. The guns currently targeted by hysterical politicians are standard semi-automatic (one squeeze, one fire) rifles with a military-looking grip, no more dangerous than any hunting rifle.

There is no 'phenomenon' going on. It seems that way because of the manner in which it's being covered by the Media Propaganda Machine. The truth is, if you want to see a chilling cause-and-effect link between violent behavior in young people in the USA, just delve into the correlation between bizarre homicidal outbursts in young people and the listed side effects of SSRI medications, like Ritalin, Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor, Prozac, et. al. But the MSM isn't going to cover the sins of Big Pharma, for fear of losing all that ad revenue they get advertising Viagra, Levitra, Abilify and Ambien.


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17 Jan 2014, 6:55 pm

Ann2011 wrote:
Men do seem to enjoy shooting things.


American men at least :D As do many American women. Probably more than European men.



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17 Jan 2014, 7:13 pm

Willard wrote:
It's purely a propaganda phenomenon...The old newsroom saw is "If It Bleeds, It Leads." Nothing gets eyes glued to the screen like fear and mayhem.


Well stated :)


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17 Jan 2014, 7:37 pm

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All the blame cannot be placed on access to guns, since women have the same access.


It occurs to me that I wouldn't necessarily be all that much safer with a gun. I could be easily overpowered or manipulated. I don't know if that's because I'm a woman or if that's just me. Anyway, if other women share these traits it could explain why they aren't as interested in guns. Plus I'd rather not shoot anyone and if I had a gun, the chances of this happening would be increased.


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17 Jan 2014, 7:41 pm

Ann2011 wrote:
MoonGateClimber wrote:
All the blame cannot be placed on access to guns, since women have the same access.


It occurs to me that I wouldn't necessarily be all that much safer with a gun. I could be easily overpowered or manipulated. I don't know if that's because I'm a woman or if that's just me. Anyway, if other women share these traits it could explain why they aren't as interested in guns. Plus I'd rather not shoot anyone and if I had a gun, the chances of this happening would be increased.


Maybe the explanation is

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Women are trolls and wussies.



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17 Jan 2014, 7:43 pm

Possible Explanation wrote:
Women are trolls and wussies.


:lol:

I think there is equal gender representation of trollhood.


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17 Jan 2014, 7:44 pm

Willard wrote:
It's purely a propaganda phenomenon. The actual violent crime rate across the US is at a 20 year low.

The leftist Mainstream Media in the US is determined to push the administration's gun grab agenda, so they make sure than any incident that can make people afraid, especially if it involves making them feel their children are in danger, gets top priority and incessant coverage. Just as stories that involve a citizen thwarting a crime or saving a life with a firearm are ignored across the board - those stories only appear in local news media, they never get national coverage.

The old newsroom saw is "If It Bleeds, It Leads." Nothing gets eyes glued to the screen like fear and mayhem. 8O

If you pay attention, you'll also notice that they use lots of calculated misrepresentation - every rifle is "an AR-15 'style' Assault Rifle" (even though they never are), the statement that "there are no background checks done for sales online and at gun shows" is constantly repeated, even though it is absolutely false, the very term "Assault Rifle" is itself a lie - a true "assault rifle" is a fully automatic machine gun, which are only available to licensed collectors after much paperwork and several background checks by the FBI. The guns currently targeted by hysterical politicians are standard semi-automatic (one squeeze, one fire) rifles with a military-looking grip, no more dangerous than any hunting rifle.

There is no 'phenomenon' going on. It seems that way because of the manner in which it's being covered by the Media Propaganda Machine. The truth is, if you want to see a chilling cause-and-effect link between violent behavior in young people in the USA, just delve into the correlation between bizarre homicidal outbursts in young people and the listed side effects of SSRI medications, like Ritalin, Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor, Prozac, et. al. But the MSM isn't going to cover the sins of Big Pharma, for fear of losing all that ad revenue they get advertising Viagra, Levitra, Abilify and Ambien.

:hail: someone has done their research.
Many involved with mass shootings have had a history of mental instability.



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17 Jan 2014, 11:57 pm

Ann2011 wrote:
It occurs to me that I wouldn't necessarily be all that much safer with a gun. I could be easily overpowered or manipulated. I don't know if that's because I'm a woman or if that's just me. Anyway, if other women share these traits it could explain why they aren't as interested in guns.


It's not the gun that makes you safer, it's the self defense training that comes with it. The gun is just a tool.

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Plus I'd rather not shoot anyone and if I had a gun, the chances of this happening would be increased.


I'm going to share a not-so-secret secret. No one who carries or owns a gun, ever *wants* to shoot someone (well, maybe some people do - certainly no one I know). I don't carry a gun because I'm looking for an excuse to put holes in someone - I carry a gun because, if it comes to it, I'd rather shoot someone and live to see another day than have them kill me. That's a very conscious choice that I made - but it's certainly not the end of it.

After that it comes down to me deciding under what circumstances and scenarios I can draw my weapon, fire it at another human being, and be able to live with the consequences. That process started the moment I decided to carry 2 years ago, and it will continue for as long as I continue to carry.


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