Do you feel drawn to Satanism

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I really like the Satanic way of thinking. That is, thinking of yourself as the highest authority and never being servile to anyone. You love those who love you and hate those who hate you. You appreciate the full range of human emotions and grant yourself freedom to be what you are. You give up self deception and pursue pleasure as the highest value in life (without bothering anyone). I am quite quite drawn to Satanism.

Here is the website of the Church of Satan (LaVeyan Satanism). I also read most of the Satanic Bible. It was a pleasant read and I agree with much of it.

Satanism seems to attract libertarians and Neo-Nazis. The worst two kind of thinkers in my opinion.

One particular fruitcake, Nikolas Schreck, is one such example.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDv_QEpYwAs[/youtube]

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In academic terms they call it "psychological hedonism". The true nature of humans to act in their own self-interest, so that every decision - even altruistic ones - are made with the real purpose to serve the ego for pleasure over pain. To recognize this is self-honesty. Is it this self-honesty that draws you in , or the specific part of the Satanic philosophy ?

This picture creeped me out ...

Being selfish doesn't require a doctrine or organized structure. Just as being kind doesnt require one. People manage both every single day. The only value to joining either would be social outlet, a promised reward in this life or the next, appeasing your parents, etc.

Imagine that ... a religion that allows people to dress in funny clothes, mumble ancient incantations, and intimidate the ignorant into doing whatever they're told ...



... so, who needs Satanism?

In their defence, i will say that for the most part they don't hurt anyone and certainly nowhere near as many people have been killed in the name of Satanism as have been in the name of Christianity.

That said I couldn't rub shoulders with the sort of people they attract because of their awful politics and world view.

Whom they tend to attract is totally irrelevant. Judge a "doctrine" by its own teachings not the people it attracts.

I'm no expert on the matter but i'm sure most Satanists would contest that.

My understanding is that their only two doctrines are 'respect nature' and 'do as thou will', so in that respect they regard themselves as an antithesis to abrahamic tyranny.

Yeah, but i apply the same standards to any other faith, not just Satanism. I find it incredibly difficult to get into Christianity because it attracts awful people too.

The religion i have felt most comfortable in is probably buddhism because its the least judgemental of all the major religions.

Satanism seems rather self defeating because they believe in oblivion after death. They seem to me to be just atheists that are too afraid to let go of the paegantry of meeting up with other people to do rituals.

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I love the honesty of Satanism. I like the fact that they accept themselves as they are, carnal animals rather than continuously feeling ashamed of their true nature. No more guilt over what we are. We feel love, hate, pride, anger and many other emotions. The mainstream religions have for millennia tried makes us feel guilty about many of them. Stupid nonsense. I like the fact that Satanists go on the offensive and are unapologetic and proud.

I like that picture. They have many rituals designed to spice up life I wish I could attend black mass.

Satanism is much more fun! Their goal is to enjoy life rather than turn themselves into good servants and feel guilty about everything they do. Though I must admit the Popes get really nice costumes, I unsuccessfully tried to become one for this reason :p

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That would all be true, if they excommunicated the nazis from their church and stopped sieg heiling swastika flags.

I would be quite interested to see a version of Satanism that embraced communist values and Soviet icons rather than all of the Ayn Randian BS about looking after numero uno.

I am not aware of the Church of Satan having anything to do with Nazism. In fact from what I recall they were more accepting of other races even before Christian churches. Can you provide some evidence of this supposed link to Nazism?

BTW not all Satanists are LaVeyan Satanists. Satanic and Satanists are not the same thing. I am talking about the Church of Satan.

How interesting, the concepts of what Satanism was, is, and might become. Just like with any other religion it is changing to fit the needs of the times and that of society and its people. and also like with many other religions, their all a mix of other religious dogmatic and philosophy, ever changing to fit peoples needs (and/or fears).

First off, biblically, Satan was supposed to be cast out by god, an all knowing and perfect god, and this was the error of the church, for if the angels were made from gods foremost perfections then Satan was not actually cast down, but instead was given a task to perform. which creates in peoples eyes an oxymoron, because god should be trusted and he would never deceive us.

Well, what ever way you want to look at it, or want to believe. I say unto you, there is no spoon.