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11 May 2007, 2:50 pm

http://www.outsiders.org.uk/inside-magazine

I've been reading around online, and most other countries around the world except the US and maybe Canada, are actually taking the sexual rights movement seriously. There is even a UN body designed for sexual health, like the World Sex Health Organization or something like that. I read somewhere that in Sweden, they've legalised prostitution for disabled clients as part of an advocacy program package.
Here check out this link to:
http://www.iashs.edu/rights.html

Alot of research is being done on involuntary celibacy. People with low sex drives may not need sex, but the majority of people have higher sex drives, and it IS a biological need for most people. This is how evolution works, people need to feel connected so it pushes them to have sex, which pushes people to reproduce. Thereby making it clear a high sex drive is a sign of good health. A lack of sex drive can mean bad health, atleast on the grand genetic scale, but it doesn't mean asexuals are less human. Asexuals aren't really gonna contribute to evolution but there are other things they can contribute (asexuals I think are sometimes born without a sex drive, which could be viewed as a disability but there are probably other ways to view it too, because gays and bi's I would not consider disabled, although they won't contribute to evolution). But yeah I'm getting off topic now.
Back to the topic, it's pretty much noted as a general fact I believe in many other countries around the world. I've even heard somewhere on the link that Tony Blair made some sort of statement about planning to give disabled people their sexual rights (although they were skeptical as to rather he meant it). There is an international group of people studying sexology now, sexology is the science of sexual psychology.



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11 May 2007, 2:52 pm

I thought disabled people had sexual right already?



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11 May 2007, 2:56 pm

Sexual right= (for us) the right to have access to a willing sex partner.



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11 May 2007, 2:58 pm

Read my 2nd link, it explains it all. People both have the right to choose their partners, and have the right to be guarantteed a willing sex partner



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11 May 2007, 3:00 pm

But no one's guaranteed a willing sex partner.
I haven't got one.
I thought disabled people were allowed to have sex.



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11 May 2007, 3:06 pm

Read the link it's in there. There are ways to guarantee a sex partner who is willing, for one idea legalising prostitution (the non-exploitative kind). They also plan on encouraging a different view of people with disabilities, they are on a people-first basis.
You don't have access **right now** but it doesn't mean you can't.
Yes, technically disabled people CAN have sex, but most disabled people don't barely have a snowballs chance in hell at finding a willing partner unless they use escorts. Society condemns people with disabilities and deems the disabled "not sexual material". The sexological movement will challenge this as well.



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11 May 2007, 3:24 pm

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8. The recognition by society that every person, partnered or unpartnered, has the right to the pursuit of a satisfying consensual sociosexual life free from political, legal or religious interference and that there need to be mechanisms in society where the opportunities of sociosexual activities are available to the following: disabled persons; chronically ill persons; those incarcerated in prisons, hospitals or institutions; those disadvantaged because of age, lack of physical attractiveness, or lack of social skills; and the poor and the lonely.

Well then I agree with that. Especially the bold bit.



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11 May 2007, 4:14 pm

Yeah, the religious right is the main opposition keeping sexological studies from being acknowledged in America. "Abstinence is virtous", well I guess that explains why priests are molesting children :roll: But it's early, I have a feeling eventually it'll be made into law here eventually. Rome wasn't built in a day;)



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11 May 2007, 9:02 pm

I've been getting aquainted with some people in the field of sexology here in the past few days, and I might add it's a breath of fresh air to talk to NTs who understand for a change. Instead of feeding me excuses they empathize. And they actually take me seriously, I'm not a "broken toy", I'm just a man. A man who needs help, which theyr doing all they can so people like us and other loners will have full sexual integration.



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12 May 2007, 5:31 am

Well you know i dont like being compared to disabled people (physically or mentally).
But when it comes to getting sex, they probably do better than most aspies. The physically disabled have their own groups and social clubs where they can meet up with each other. And the mentally handicaped do too; what they get up to in the bedroom i dont know, but they are certainly more social than me.
I may have another look in the link, see if i can find a local prostitute; there are a lot of smackhead pros around and you don't know what you may be getting into. So it's good to have such an organisation to recommend respectable ones.
Meet-ups for weekends in amsterdam sound good too, but there are no groups in my area and i dunno if i would turn up to one anyway. I would have to check it out covertly first, im a bit paranoid for some reason.



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12 May 2007, 6:27 am

There was something on Channel4 a few months ago about disabled people having sex. I think it was about a dating agency for disabled people.



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12 May 2007, 7:29 am

Legal prositution? The catholics are going to be pissed. I'm in for that. I also support peoples right to stick and get sticked. Dont we all have the right to procreate to continue the march of (wo)man. To increase our genetic variance?



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12 May 2007, 7:32 am

Kosmonaut wrote:
Well you know i dont like being compared to disabled people (physically or mentally).
But when it comes to getting sex, they probably do better than most aspies. The physically disabled have their own groups and social clubs where they can meet up with each other. And the mentally handicaped do too; what they get up to in the bedroom i dont know, but they are certainly more social than me.
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I may have another look in the link, see if i can find a local prostitute; there are a lot of smackhead pros around and you don't know what you may be getting into. So it's good to have such an organisation to recommend respectable ones.
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why not just become a 'respectable' whore your self, Kosmo? Have you ever thought of becoming a gigalo? You could even be one for disabled people, think how your not being disabled would be a big turn on for the ladies. (or what ever, I don't dare to presume I know your sexual preferences.)
sign yourself up with t he organisation. . it couldn't hurt. . .

a modest proposal,

Merle



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12 May 2007, 7:34 am

kt-64 wrote:
Legal prositution? The catholics are going to be pissed. I'm in for that. I also support peoples right to stick and get sticked. Dont we all have the right to procreate to continue the march of (wo)man. To increase our genetic variance?

No one has the right to procreate with me. :D
But you're right, anything that pissed off the Catholics is fine with me.



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12 May 2007, 7:36 am

Of course Sopho with willing partners. :lol:



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12 May 2007, 8:24 am

sinsboldly wrote:
Kosmonaut wrote:
Well you know i dont like being compared to disabled people (physically or mentally).
But when it comes to getting sex, they probably do better than most aspies. The physically disabled have their own groups and social clubs where they can meet up with each other. And the mentally handicaped do too; what they get up to in the bedroom i dont know, but they are certainly more social than me.
-snip-
I may have another look in the link, see if i can find a local prostitute; there are a lot of smackhead pros around and you don't know what you may be getting into. So it's good to have such an organisation to recommend respectable ones.
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why not just become a 'respectable' whore your self, Kosmo? Have you ever thought of becoming a gigalo? You could even be one for disabled people, think how your not being disabled would be a big turn on for the ladies. (or what ever, I don't dare to presume I know your sexual preferences.)
sign yourself up with t he organisation. . it couldn't hurt. . .

a modest proposal,

Merle


well it's something for me to think about.
problem is i am very picky, and anyone wishing to pay me for sex.. well they are probably not my type.
Like Woody said, i would not wish to join a group that would have me as a member. Or was it Groucho Marx?