Jews- race or religion?

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Someone made me think about this one recently, I mean there is a jewish bloodline. Someone could come from jewish ancestry, but not believe in the jewish religion, but still take pride in their heritage, and history. On the same note, someone not of a jewish bloodline can convert to judaism, the difference being that the first example is a jew by blood only, the second example was by religion only. And, then there are jews who come from the bloodline and still believe in the religion (the full jew). Given this, how does one define judaism, is it a race or a religion?
I'd say, my personal opinion, is that it's a religion first. Their culture is based around the religion. But that's just my personal opinion, I'm curious to see what others might think of it.

Jerusalem is the unison of race and religion. Both race and religion follow the natural laws of evolution survival of the fittest. For individual races, racial purity helps a race to evolve more quickly then it would otherwise be able to by other means. The Jews manage racial purity by having their own cultural identity, much like other races.

As a result Jewish people have become very intelligent as it has become one of the desirable characteristics that the Jewish culture admire.

The religion is an evolved lie. Religions relationship with evolution is if the lie works on the people better then the truth then that lie become truth in their eyes.

Jerusalem being a race and a religion has its own advantages. One of them being that it goes for quality opposed to shear quantity by indiscriminately converting people. One has an option of converting to Jerusalem, but my correct assumptions are that the majority of people that do convert are very Jew like themselves thus speeding up the rate that Jewish people evolve. Jewish people already have a high percentage of aspies compared with England. Here in England the chavs scums are going to rule in the future because they are brainlessly having children starting from a young age outnumbering any middle class British who tend leave childbearing to later because of their careers. The end result is Britain is going to end up with lots of stupid chavs and Israel will have the intelligent people.

Judaism is a religion. What makes it confusing is that a majority of what are identified as Jews are not particularly religious. This is not entirely unique. Europe and the United States are technically "Christian," but large portions of those who are identified as Christian don't go to church and are entirely secular.

Of course, you can deal with it as a theological question as well. If someone has an understanding of that, feel free to pipe in, because I really don't know.

During and before the Second World War, Hitler had racial theories regard a "Jewish race" that was complete nonsense. There is no one isolated "Jewish race." You are dealing with different communities in different areas of the world that, intentionally or not, have had non-Jewish persons within their family trees.

It is not the case that Jews are managing to remain isolated today around the world, precisely the opposite. Jewish intermarriage with non-Jews (usually Christians or nominally Christian) in the United States is incredibly high. Also, the children of those mixed couples are much more likely then not to be raised Christian.

This is somewhat understandable since Christianity is the dominant religion in the United States and Judaism is only in the single percentile digits. Parents want their children to be part of a larger community rather then a more isolated one.

No, it is both.

i think the two intersect but aren't necessarily one in the same. it's kinda like saying that all muslims are of one race.....yeah the majority happen to be of middle eastern descent but that doesn't not necessarily make for both.


case in point: sammy davis jr.; he converted to judaism and is not of jewish heritage....and let's not forget all the atheist/agnostic jews who are ethnically jewish but not religiously jewish.


and tear down the state of israel...it's not a legitimate country. it's a result of a theft.

Hey have you read the Secret Doctrine of Madam Blavatsky? It details the mental, physical, and spiritual evolution of mankind, it explains the roles of religions and the 7 prophets (so far there have been jesus, moses, muhammad, buddha, and krishna, we're awaiting number 6 at this moment)..... It details the 7 root races of evolution, the 4th was the jews, theyr still waiting in the 5th, I think we'll be the 5th. I think it's aspies, honestly. The 5th race would be worldwide not united by a religion, a culture, a color, or a theory of mind, but by a universal mind (we're still not the complete evolution of the mind yet though, the 6th and 7th will be later in time.... Aspies are the "Generation of Hope").
She prophecied that the 5th race would go to live in peace and would be scorned and subdued, and from that the 6th and 7th root races would emerge....

I mean there's already talk about a possible future aspie nation emerging, Aspergia, it was much like this in the beginning with Israel too. I think the blow that could hit it off is if they pass pre-natal testing technology on autism. Alot of people on the AFF and other activist groups will rally up then to keep AS culture alive.


It all works in mathemetical variables of 7. When you think about it, seven seas, seven liberties, seven deadly sins, seven spikes on the crown of the statue of liberty, seven continents, lucky number 7, 7 wonders of the world, seven prophets, seven root races of man.

If you haven't read Madame Blavatsky's "Secret Doctrine" I'd recommend it, I know your into studying darwinian psychology and evolution. So I know this would interest you as much as it has me.

I might actually be in support of tearing down Israel but I'm not completely certain, I'd have to really research on it and do alot of thinking.

I think they'd sort of count as a race. Before the 19th century, Jews pretty much kept to their own isolated small communities in Europe. Because interbreeding between Jews and Christians was extremely rare, and the Jews were much smaller in number, their was less variations than in the christian population....so the jews had common physical characteristics.

...the jews haven't converted huge populations through conquest and/or imperialism like muslims and christians...so they haven't taken on a melting pot of different races.

....I'm not too knowledgable on biology or anything like that, so it's just a wild guess.

....on the other hand...you could say some jews and some muslims are both semitic.