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billiscool
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08 Apr 2014, 6:17 pm

http://singleparents.about.com/od/legal ... rtrait.htm\
so,roughly 37 % of single mother were never married,
and roughly 25% of single father were never married.
when Im talking about single mother.Im talking about
the drunk party type.The one who sleep with uncommited
guys.and the ''player''guy who leaves and doesnt take care of his kid,leaves before the kid even born,he leaves the mother on her own.

it's sick,some guy can just walk out on his unborn kid life,and give
no s**t,why do you people,think Im conservative. The idea
that people should be commited to each other,if
not to each other,at least to the kid. What's wrong with that.

if a guy has a kid,he should be there for the kid.



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08 Apr 2014, 6:23 pm

In the article you reference, it also states that the negative sterotypes don't reflect the reality of most single parents. I don't believe "drunk party girl" is an accurate description of most single mothers.



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08 Apr 2014, 6:44 pm

billiscool wrote:
The idea
that people should be commited to each other,if
not to each other,at least to the kid. What's wrong with that.


Nothing. Where I get off the train with social conservatives is what to do about it.



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08 Apr 2014, 6:59 pm

billiscool wrote:
when Im talking about single mother.Im talking about the drunk party type.


Well, of course you are. :roll:

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The one who sleep with uncommited
guys.and the ''player''guy who leaves and doesnt take care of his kid,leaves before the kid even born,he leaves the mother on her own.

it's sick,some guy can just walk out on his unborn kid life,and give
no sh**,why do you people,think Im conservative. The idea
that people should be commited to each other,if
not to each other,at least to the kid. What's wrong with that.

if a guy has a kid,he should be there for the kid.


So you don't think people - or at least fertile straight people, in this case - should have sex unless they are completely committed to staying together? I mean, sure, they can use contraception, but that can fail.

My dad dumped my mother, my sister (3 years old at the time), and me (2 months old at the time). I first met him when I was 13, and a few more times since. Before then, it never occured to me I was missing a dad. After meeting him, I was glad he'd left. My mother had the occasional boyfriend, remarrying when I was 20.

By the way, 'sticking around and looking after your kids' is not in any way an exclusively conservative thing. There are many who will consider themselves liberal who do the same, and many who will vote and identify as conservative who'll screw around, cheat, beat up and walk out on their family. There are people who so value marriage they're seemingly compelled to divorce and remarry as though it were a series of five year plans.

That said, the world is not split into this liberal/conservative dichotomy you frame it as, where all conservatives are wonderful and all liberals are evil. A lot of what you praise isn't 'conservative', it's being a decent human being.


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09 Apr 2014, 4:56 am

billiscool wrote:
http://singleparents.about.com/od/legalissues/p/portrait.htm\
so,roughly 37 % of single mother were never married,
and roughly 25% of single mother were never married.

Just to clarify, the second figure is single fathers.

Bill, you yourself said in the previous thread that you didn't think there was a problem with children born out of wedlock, unless the father didn't know his children.

Those stats don't reflect your narrow definition of a "single parent".

I agree with you that people should try and be there for their children. Of course, some people are just bad parents and shouldn't be there.



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09 Apr 2014, 5:33 am

The_Walrus wrote:
Just to clarify, the second figure is single fathers.

Bill, you yourself said in the previous thread that you didn't think there was a problem with children born out of wedlock, unless the father didn't know his children.

Those stats don't reflect your narrow definition of a "single parent".

I agree with you that people should try and be there for their children. Of course, some people are just bad parents and shouldn't be there.


I fixed it,I accidently wrote mother twice.



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09 Apr 2014, 8:04 am

If Conservative US states and politicians didn't (1) sabotage sex education and (2) withhold access to abortion, then there would probably be a lot fewer single parent households in the US.



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09 Apr 2014, 8:08 am

^QFT.The morning after pill should be easily available to all women.


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09 Apr 2014, 8:39 am

I am a full time single parent, and I am male.
Yet I do not resemble any of those remarks.

If anything, it was the mother whom wanted to get away from the kids feeling thats all her life had been was making babies and raising them to where she didn't have a life. she loves her kids but for the most part leaves them with the fathers to go and have a social life. And as for me, I always wanted a family and kids just it seems I can never keep the women. Its kind of ironic and sadly funny really, she tried at first to take full custody of all her kids because she wanted her ex's gone out of her life, but once she found she couldnt she gave up and basically is letting the fathers raise them while she goes out and tries to have a social life. I am happy having a son to raise, even at my age, it gives me something to do with my life that I can appreciate and isn't all me-me's. not to mention I failed miserably socially, but with a child its like having a captive audience.

I would love it if I had a mate that wanted to be that bread winner and I stay at home raising the children. or even one that would enjoy taking our turns as equal partners. but its damned hard playing both all the time.


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09 Apr 2014, 9:01 am

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