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MonsterGuy
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23 May 2014, 3:25 pm

proof that it actually happened?



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23 May 2014, 3:52 pm

No. And it doesn't exist in every culture either.


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23 May 2014, 3:56 pm

MonsterGuy wrote:
proof that it actually happened?

No. Even most religious people in developed nations accept that Noah's Ark is a fairy tale, maybe one with a deep message about the gods, but a fairy tale nonetheless. It could not possibly be true.

It was probably inspired by a really big flood in the cradle of civilisation, that might have seemed like the whole world at the time.



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23 May 2014, 4:39 pm

Floods like that could very well happen in semiarid or arid regions, even with relatively little rain.



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23 May 2014, 4:57 pm

The ark myth just doesn't erm... hold water.


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23 May 2014, 5:01 pm

How did they get all the animals on one boat?



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23 May 2014, 5:03 pm

How did they get TWO EACH on the boat?



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23 May 2014, 5:08 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
How did they get TWO EACH on the boat?


Two for the price of one. :wink:


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23 May 2014, 6:04 pm

Why doesn't life on Earth show evidence of this massive genetic bottleneck?



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23 May 2014, 6:22 pm

I stumbled across this lecture that outlines a plausible reason why global flood myths are common:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4k8pdJ2so4[/youtube]



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23 May 2014, 9:41 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
How did they get all the animals on one boat?


Not to mention, species indigenous to other continents.


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23 May 2014, 11:19 pm

There are flood myths in many cultures. They differ in details. But do have surprising similarities. But they are not totally universal. The Egyptians lacked a flood myth. And Egypt is a low lying country. If there were a global flood it would be hit.

Henrich Schlemann- the German businessman turned archeologist used Homer's Iliad as a guide and following the words of Homer he found the ancient city of Troy. His dig was taken as proof that the Trojan war (or something like it) actually happened. But it was NOT taken as proof of the existence of the Greek Gods of Mt. Olympus.

A single global flood of the type described by Genisis (which drowned all of the mountains of the earth) either did not happen. Or it happened without leaving a trace of evidence, and somehow left alot of counter evidence.

But the first few thousand years after the end of the last Ice Age ( and before the mastery of agriculture in the neolithic) were a time of unstable climate. Glacial melting, temporary readvance of glacers, and glaciers melting again. There were many catastrophic local floods all over the world. The widespreadflood myths, including the one in the OT, could be the distorted memories of these local devasting floods.



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24 May 2014, 12:16 am

There is evidence of a massive flood in Mesopotamia in Biblical times that could explain it, or at least it could explain the flood in regards to Noah's Ark.



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24 May 2014, 12:40 am

MonsterGuy wrote:
proof that it actually happened?
Beyond all doubt, no. Beyond a reasonable doubt, yes.


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24 May 2014, 1:10 am

This goes back to Utnapishtim:

wikipedia



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24 May 2014, 2:39 am

@op where is your evidence for your statement.

@Moviefan I shudder to think of what you regard as beyond reasonable doubt, in fact I wonder what you think of as rational reasoning. I presume you think it is reasonable to doubt actual evidence or as in this case a complete and utter lack of evidence, over theological musings.


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