How I see the world and society.

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Have you ever gotten to that point where you start wondering if you have been spoon fed crap your whole life? Throughout my childhood I mostly just followed my own instincts and my parents and teachers would get on to me for doing something wrong. I was completely unaware of all of these concepts and rules and beliefs that everyone keeps talking about nowadays as I either just slaved away doing homework or playing with other children with building blocks. Throughout my school life, I completely let certain subjects go in one ear and out the other because they had nothing to do with what I wanted to do and that is to make comics and maybe cartoons.

I don't know if i have always felt this way or that these certain instincts are just now or recently kicking in.

The way I see everything...is that none it is actually happening because I don't believe in it. I don't believe or want to believe in almost anything mainly because it's all made up. Politics, religion, society, tradition, law, gender, sexuality, race, freedom, equality, democracy, liberalism, conservatism, liberty, justice, peace. All of these things are made up by simple human minds and yet they have changed everything. The more I here people yammer on and on about their beliefs and the terms that they back them up with, the more I become averted from them because the more people believe in something, the more fanatical and restricted they become by it.

Heck, I don't even care about this country and why it was made in the first place. What matters to me is how people explored themselves and what they were able to do and create just for the sake of it. Then people started coming up with all superstitions and systems and everyone started falling into line over whatever and then it all hit the fan.

What has caused me the most anguish is that other people do believe in these concepts and are willing to give up there individuality, even by betraying one another, if it means upholding that concept in some way. Maybe if people never believed in all of these things, maybe we would have made a lot better progress a whole lot earlier than just a few years ago and there would never have been all of this conflict. I don't want to be a part of this torn up world and instead want to live in my own made up realm with all of these characters that define themselves instead of following some sort of simple belief.

I wish I could go in a little further without turning it into where people will start labeling each other with all these words that I listed.

I guess what I was trying to say or go into more is that all concepts such as morality are invisible. They have no innate shape but can be be shaped into whatever form that the person who is invoking it desires and people give them power just by thought until they get to the point where that is all they become that thought. You never know who originally came up with this one certain concept or what was its original intent even if you find it written in some textbook. What so-and-so means to one person could either mean something completely different or nothing to the next. So, I think that the best solution at least for me is to simply stop believing.

I know that I have already elaborated on how almost everything in this world is fake because it is all ultimately based on simple human perception and superstition, but I came up with a few wacky ideas when it comes to religion.

It all started after the tragedy that was the Sandy Hook massacre. I as an individual I was just as horrified but at the same rather strangely mystified, however, over how someone could go pull off something like this. What mystified me was how someone could start off as a random nobody who played everyday violent shooters at first then transform into something as monstrous as...that. I asked my mother if she had any sympathy for the man who committed this act and she replied with a blunt no. I speculated that something twisted this poor soul into something that he was not suppose to be and it was here that I asked another question.

"Mom, do you ever wonder if we made both this life and our afterlife a hell for our own selves?"

I asked this question because my own personally concept of Hell is radically different from what the rest of my family was raised to believe. The way I see it, Hell is no different than a correctional facility for those who are guilty of their respective sinful acts. For one instance, in Wrath, two people who have murdered when alive must fight each in an endless and tireless duel until they find some sort of center on why they did what they did. For another, in Avarice or Greed, a person must be forced to run some sort of nigh-impossible obstacle course so they can learn how much what something truly worth and and how it must be earned. Every floor is like some sort of anger management or mandatory spiritual therapy exercise, to put it lightheartedly.

I see Lucifer as someone who either was tired of God misusing His powers or was simply jealous because He had all the power and he had little even though he was considered His right-hand man. I see that Lucifer is not this ultimate form of evil that seeks to corrupt innocent souls but is instead just a representative of the idea of evil. Who knows, maybe his casting out was a blessing of its own?

My own concept of both Armageddon and the cycle of life are also radically different. I wondered if the so claimed ultimate battle between good and evil is not that, but some sort tournament or something to decide who among the "damned" gets to succeed into God's Kingdom. Those who have proved themselves earn the right to be absolved of their wrong doings while the losers must go back and return to their correcting. I also wondered that this dramatic, climactic, and spectacular event has happened more than once already whether it was either in the this current or a previous lifetime.

To summarize, I have questioned whether or not it is possible to be absolved even the realm of the dead. Those who are good are good, those who are bad must be corrected into being good, and who absolutely, positively, 100% irredeemable just vanish. I have also said that it may be possible to be reincarnated because the soul is what truly carries all of our thoughts and desires and our body are a vessel that it necessary for expressing them.

That was just my first idea and I have just recently come of with a second wacky idea. What if every single human on the planet Earth is a fragment of God, like shreds of one great big mural, and when those fragments get together and form new shapes, they become new "gods?" This group forms and becomes Vishnu, this group forms and becomes Zues, and this group forms and becomes Odin. Presently, it has all come down to fighting over whose "god" is better than the other which has led to great suffering while their are a few who are trying to cast all of their man-made things aside and finally reunite into the one true perfect being.

I don't preach all of this everywhere and I used to be Catholic before I decided to go my own way. I just came up with this sort of thing that sounds it came from the joint, if you know what I mean.

Like I said, almost every single thing in this world is the product of the simple human brain and the more a human insists that his or her product, "good" or "bad," has some ultimate purpose other than as a simple product for his or her own private needs, the more susceptible they are to replacing their very being with that idea. My point is that the more I hear people blather on and on about whatever beliefs or buzzwords they created, follow, and are against, no matter what they are, the more they lose any significance and they all start running together to the point where they all become nothing more than toys in a way.

That is when individuality truly dies, if you ask me.

Now, here is something about insignificance.

I for one felt released after coming to the realization that who we and what we believe are what's truly insignificant in the grand scheme of things instead of what we can do. Our systems of morality and beliefs inherently serve nothing save for our own egos and are always bound to destructive change but what we create by our own hands for its own sake is almost eternal. For instance, the more I'm told that I should do this or believe in that or that this or that is very important or sacred, the more I shrug it off instead because I see it having no impact in my personal affairs.

I used to believe what everyone else believed but then they stopped losing meaning over time because they were just made up by other people. What may have been depressing for some was something of a release for me because with all of these moral chains taken off the world immediately became my oyster. I became free to immerse myself in the world around and to take and create from it what my heart desired.

I don't know about you but once I took off those mental chains, I felt damn near invincible.

Now, when it comes to bigotry.

It greatly irritates me when those who are beings attacked by bigots who want them to change or conform and accept their way of as the only way choose to continue either bowing down towards them to save face or either just give up and accept that they are weaker than everyone else when they both have the power to stand up for themselves.

What's the best way to convince them otherwise?

Why is it when an oppressed group either fights back against bigotry or asks to be included into something, they get called out for allegedly forcing some sort of agenda? I've never heard such a phrase be repeated such embarrassingly countless times in my life. I'm asking this because I have been wondering myself if I may be more interested in men. Last time I checked, I'm not the one going around forcing everyone to live my or a certain way.

This hurts me more than any other insult.

I have major problems with other people and how they judge others for being outside of the norm or not following the same traditions and beliefs that everyone else is following. I have been questioning my sexuality for a long time now, and experiencing all of the hate and bias for people like me have transformed me into an absolutely emotional and spiritual wreck.

I'm pretty sure everyone else has covered how they were curious about who they could have the most pleasing love with and have questioned their gender and how they should explore and express it. I for one have a certain image in mind when it comes to possible future mate, but that is for another time. My real problem is how totally ass backwards most people are when they encounter this and how they react when met with resistance.

In a number of large circles, why is it when LGBT's fight back when they get sick and tired of being called unnatural, immoral, disgusting, and are denied the ability to live their lives the way they want and demand to be treated the same way everyone else wants to be treated in return, they are the ones who get called intolerant bullies? Last time I checked, they weren't going around accusing everyone of being godless heathens, forcing everyone to live by their rules, and crying "religious persecution" whenever they get criticized because everyone is an individual. Some guys act more like girls and or fall in love with guys, some girls act more like guys and or fall in love with girls, some people raise their kids in a way that's totally different from usual, and some people don't people in God, gender, morality, or anything. Granted, they may let their anger get the better of them, everyone does and it's natural, but still.

I also find it the epitome of narcissism (I absolutely hate spelling that word) when someone says something along the the lines of "Hey, I'm well aware that you guys don't follow the same traditions that we follow, but I just want to let you know that our way is the right way as it's always been. Ciao."

I have a certain image in mind for a potential male mate, by the way.

Why is it that I am expected to blindly bow down to someone else's superstitions and let my life be decided my a majority instead of myself, all of which have nothing to do with me? Why is it that others are so willing to surrender their being to someone else just to save face instead standing up for themselves? Individuality stops being individuality when either you sacrifice yourself to uphold a simple concept or having your private self decided by the most people.

I never asked for all of this attention and for all of this "support." I just want to be free to be myself and to live my own damn life the way I want to without anyone else's careless say in the matter. Is any of this honestly too much to ask?

Whenever I see crap like this happen, I tend to silently utter to myself that I don't want to be a human anymore.

This is my life, this is my decision, and you don't get to have an "opinion" or to be against it, YOU'VE NEVER HAD THAT "RIGHT," EVER!

I know that this was a ton to say, but I felt like getting it all off my chest.

Last edited by LoneSword7878 on 25 May 2014, 6:05 am, edited 3 times in total.

This goes into the historical origins of the Conservative/ Liberal dichotomy in the U.S.

http://www.cracked.com/podcast/pop-or-s ... you-think/

Morality is invisible, so it?s given form as some sort of representative for whatever the user of it finds as the most convenient. It?s mostly comes to appealing to something higher than the human mind or hands. Therefore, I think that the best solution is to simply let go of it; not to believe and instead just act and learn from experience. The more we insist on enforcing these systems of morality, of imaginary ?good? and ?evil,? the more we loose our ability to use our brains to properly analyze and determine like the computers they are.

I hope that sounds logical enough.

And you know I think the problem is with problems today?

Giving it a name in the first place.

We gave it a name and attention, people started talking about it, people started fighting over it, all when we never really had to because we were all brainwashed by a set cultural and political system. Instead of just going ahead and living and studying ourselves the way we wanted to live, we've been forced to seek out approval when it?s not remotely required. If none of this ever happened, we would already be living in a utopia, pardon my idealism.

Another thing I wanted to say is that I don't need these special little things called "rights" because I would live my life they way I wanted to even without them. I never needed anyone to grant me them because I had them anyway.

Yes, in Northern USA , it is called 'pop' ... in DC/Virginia it is called 'soda'.

I told someone to get me a pop, and they asked me, "Where are you from?"

Umm, you do realize that you are describing natural rights, right?

Rights is just a word to me.

Whatever meaning that it may have to other makes no difference to me.

Feel free to point and laugh at me if you want, but my life is mine and mine alone to decide.

Hey, I'm not making fun (much).

I'm just pointing out that others have had similar thoughts. Considering the thoughts of others can help you test, refine and improve the quality of your own.

I don't want to anymore of that and just want everyone to shut up. I am so tired of everyone worshiping and demonizing this or that and saying that their way is the right way when I just want to go my own way. When something that has nothing to with me wants to try and stop me from living my life to the fullest, I want it eliminated with no questions asked.

What if I said that I've been thinking about becoming a social critic? What if I wanted to start addressing criticism of mainstream systems of belief from politics to morality to religion, everything? What if I wanted to criticize the romanticizing of things like freedom, values, beliefs, and such? From everything that I have posted, I think everyone now knows how I feel about certain things. Let's leave everything else aside for a moment so I can ask that I should take creative writing classes and become a social critic or satirist.

This is one of those times when I also want to make a post that long in reply, but don't know where to start.

Each one of us has our own unique perception and 'take' on this world. I happen to agree with everything you have said for the most part and to some extent, so I guess I shall break it down;

I realised early on (even as a small child) that everybody was being spoonfed crap and I spent my time searching for the 'fork'. I have always felt this way and maybe you have too, but are only just realising it now.



This is true, everything you have mentioned is a human construct/concept, but without human endeavours in these fields, civilisations wouldn't have been created....Egypt...Rome...all of the beautiful aesthetic works of art and music which go beyond the human mind and touch our hearts...but...humans need these things to exist and survive...well, most do, but it appears that we do not, so we can bypass human beings and humanity entirely then and move on to the next quote.


The biggest failing with the human species is that they need to exert some kind of a hierarchical 'control system' over each other. Belief in these things is fine, until dogma starts creeping in. Until the human ego needs to become the 'leader in the field' and there are popes, bishops, cardinals, priests...

It is humans who have made God more 'complex' and 'harder to reach/understand' than He needs to be and translate scriptures and holy books according to their own biased and skewed opinions and that's when all the rot starts setting in.



Bingo! Why do you need to 'believe' when you know, so the question is, now that you know, what can you do about it?
What I am trying to say is...congratulations, you have realised the world is a giant TV screen and you're watching people acting in a movie, realising it's all a big 'put-on' and none of it is real....so if reality isn't real, what is? (and that is a rhetorical question which only your heart can answer).

I'll reply more later, but you seem to be overthinking things here...

I didn't understand much of what you were saying after that, until I reached this part:


Because you are NOT! you aren't 'expected' to do anything and you don't have to do anything you do not want to do. Nobody is forcing you to believe them, follow their religion, political party or whatever...if you don't want to be a part of it or have anything to do with it, I guess the best thing you can do is leave the rest of humanity in peace to enjoy it. I mean they must derive some pleasures from doing these things that just totally escape us, right?

Why don't people stand up for themselves? because they are too afraid...terrified of what other people will think about them if they do, so I ask you, do you really want to be like that?

If you are receiving unwanted/unwarranted support, the phrase I like to use is 'thanks, but no thanks'. Who ever said you couldn't be free to be 'yourself'?

Your problem, it seems, is that you still don't know who 'yourself' wants to be. Just be polite and say 'I'm sorry, but you're not helping much here, maybe give me some time to consider your advice'...I mean, just try and talk to them and say that their way isn't your way, and if you are forced to live/work with such people, come to some sort of compromise...because getting angry doesn't seem to be working for you either.

Like it or not, we are human. What type of human is up to us.

I wish you all the best and I apologise for my incoherrent rambings (I'm actually a lot more focused than this)...but what else can you expect from me at 3am?...

To the OP: LoneSword, here's a link you may find interesting:

http://www.ubuntuparty.org.za/


Michael Tellinger reckons we were born into slavery because for example why should we need money in order to survive on the planet we were born on?

His solution to the current world system is what he calls Ubuntu Contributionism. I'm new to this but think it's worth looking into.

I find many of your ideas to be refreshing and have bookmarked the page for later analysis... there are certainly some interesting points there. By all means express your individuality as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others to be happy in their way...

From you, I hear a mind that is ready to be free.

A mind that urgently wants to let go of all beliefs, concepts, and illusions.

There are many approaches that can be taken, though they are all one approach.

Advaita Vedanta, Buddhism, Taoism, Kriya Yoga, Raja Yoga, Jnana Yoga, etc.....etc....

There are so many. If you wish to evaluate any of these, please be sure to understand that ALL have had layers of religion and culture build on top of them for millennia. The PURE core philosophy beneath the superfluous can easily be found.

Even the 'self made me' construct is illusory. These methods can realize that which IS.

May I recommend Rupert Spira to you. He teaches a Neo-Vedanta Direct Method of self inquiry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW9kvq1 ... 545gMh9PUg

Consider these words, if you wish....found in a cave in China....hidden for centuries

"The ego(or mind...the constantly thinking self) is a monkey catapulting through the jungle: Totally fascinated by the realm of the senses, it swings from one desire to the next, one conflict to the next, one self-centered idea to the next. If you threaten it, it actually fears for its life. Let this monkey go. Let the senses go. Let desires go. Let conflicts go. Let ideas go. Let the fiction of life and death go. Just remain in the center, watching. And then forget that you are there.

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Does one scent appeal more than another? Do you prefer this flavor, or that feeling? Is your practice sacred and your work profane? Then your mind is separated: from itself, from oneness, from the Tao. Keep your mind free of divisions and distinctions. When your mind is detached, simple, quiet, then all things can exist in harmony, and you can begin to perceive the subtle truth."

source: http://www.qigong.net.nz/huahujing

May this help you awaken.
Be well.

It seems I have found a 'kindred spirit' on this forum. It's just like a mirror reflecting the Truth (Satyam).

All of the above is excellent advice!

I call it; 'being disillusioned with the illusion' - until I realise just how totally illogical and absurd that statement is. lol

So, I'll just deconstruct the whole religious construct here instead.



Yes, they are all one approach and my belief system incorporates teachings from all of the above, even though the end goal is unanimous; the ultimate realisation/merging with the absolute reality that we call Brahman.

There are two main 'manifestations' of Brahman - Saguna and Nirguna.

Saguna Brahman is the aspect of the eternal consciousness that has been ascribed 'attributes' by the human mind...yeah, we call that one; 'God'.

I doesn't matter what 'God' this is - Jehovah, Allah, Shiva...they are all just names for this same thing - the human concept of a transcendent Deity (the key word here, being 'Deity').

Nirguna Brahman is the formless aspect of the all-pervading Brahman which can only be directly experienced through meditation, Yoga (except for Bhakti), mindfulness, pranayama (breath control) and corresponding kriyas (cleansing and strengthening techniques). It is also achieved through Mantra Yoga which is also a quick way.

I don't want to post any more to detract from what slave posted, because he's also very wise and informed in this matter.

We have taken you to the door now...whether you choose to open it...

Good luck and all the best.

Everyday, youths are being programmed to think in one way or another.

Like machines, they are inserted with what is to be their unquestionable prime directive.

They are indoctrinated into a petty conflict of interests between black and white, what is supposedly good versus what is supposedly evil.

Man's cruelty to himself is legendary, but so is his ability to transcend himself. Man has always had the power to evolve from his ego, to rise above the very morality and logic that he himself constructed.

Instead of simply believing, they could learn to know.

For the world was made for man and man was made for the world.