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01 Aug 2014, 5:37 pm

That's right. I decided that God probably does not exist. I didn't even study the bible or other traditions, it now just seems more silly to me. On the other hand, it may have been my lack of interest in all things "god" and "heavenly" that made me drift. Can some atheists here help me on this?

I don't think anything going on in this world verifies God's existence very well. I'd rather have free will, but without all the serial killings etc. Still, I'd rather have somewhere to go after death then end up unconscious with no awareness.



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02 Aug 2014, 1:43 am

Hes a man made concept used to explain what science and logic could not explain until now now as those unexplained gaps continue to close god is shrinking at an alarming rate!


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02 Aug 2014, 5:59 am

AspieOtaku wrote:
Hes a man made concept used to explain what science and logic could not explain until now now as those unexplained gaps continue to close god is shrinking at an alarming rate!


God's comfort:
Timmy went to heaven. We will be with him again. Yeaaaa! :drunken:

Now let's all go to church and hear about GOD's plan for us. Yeaaaa! :drunken:

Logic and Science:
There is no afterlife, so we ain't never gonna see little Timmy again. :cry:

Life is so cruel and purposeless. :cry:

Logic and science don't appear to be fill in the gap of God comfort ?



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02 Aug 2014, 3:19 pm

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I find comfort in comfort. Lifestyle things. Being a vessel for good instead of evil. Hope. Not having people yell at me all the time: peace of mind. It is a crime that people allow their anger at injustice and tyranny to be deflected either by pie in the sky religious nonsense, or drugs. Religion is bunk. Stop lying to people. If you are one of those who perpetuate the lie because the people need comfort: stop doing that. You''re compromising the public's ability to think critically. If you're really concerned about peoples comfort, your efforts would be better spent by supporting causes which aim to make this life less of a bloody misery for people without making them idiots and obedient slaves to tyranny in the process.

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02 Aug 2014, 5:30 pm

The reason why religion exists is because people have a psychological need for it. It's not so much that religion is "right", as that humans simply desire it. Of course, there are many different things that can fufill this "need" besides conventional religions; some people are sports fanatics, some people worship celebrities, some people are super patriotic, and then of course you have all these different fandoms for things online. It all seems crazy and outlandish from an outside perspective, but everyone either follows something, or wants to find something to follow. That's just human nature.



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02 Aug 2014, 8:07 pm

K_Kelly wrote:
That's right. I decided that God probably does not exist.


Neither does Batman, Beowolf, or Randle McMurphy. Does that make them any less real? The people who take the Bible, Koran, etc. literally are just confusing the situation.

You take what works for you and leave the rest. When it stops working, find other ways of thinking. We don't have a big complicated brain for nothin'. You got to learn how to "feed" it.


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02 Aug 2014, 9:27 pm

Awiddershinlife wrote:
K_Kelly wrote:
That's right. I decided that God probably does not exist.


Neither does Batman, Beowolf, or Randle McMurphy. Does that make them any less real? The people who take the Bible, Koran, etc. literally are just confusing the situation.

You take what works for you and leave the rest. When it stops working, find other ways of thinking. We don't have a big complicated brain for nothin'. You got to learn how to "feed" it.


Yes!

And the concept of "infinity" too. This concept exists only in the mind as a thought, yet, it is used extensively in mathematical and scientific "proofs".



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03 Aug 2014, 4:27 am

LoveNotHate wrote:

Yes!

And the concept of "infinity" too. This concept exists only in the mind as a thought, yet, it is used extensively in mathematical and scientific "proofs".


Oh here we go again mixing fact from fiction! To the best of my knowledge there is no such thing as a scientific proof, mathematics yes. . What next LNH are you about to argue the falseness of mathematical proofs or maybe you will to hunt down a 'scientific' study and warp the meaning of a word to suit your purposes, which is exactly what you did when debating evolution and your out of context definition of "determinism" as used by a particular study


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03 Aug 2014, 6:05 am

People don't like unsolved mysteries. They want closure. We've all essentially woken up in a locked room with no explanation. Naturally people will start making up stories to explain why. That's especially true with parents. Their kids ask a question and they want to answer it. Saying, "I don't know" to a child Is very hard for some people. Maybe they feel it undermines their authority and that might be the only position of authority they've ever experienced. So they speak in absolutes about things they really don't know much about.



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03 Aug 2014, 6:24 am

DentArthurDent wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:

Yes!

And the concept of "infinity" too. This concept exists only in the mind as a thought, yet, it is used extensively in mathematical and scientific "proofs".


which is exactly what you did when debating evolution and your out of context definition of "determinism" as used by a particular study


Not appropriate to discuss this here, so no comment.

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Oh here we go again mixing fact from fiction! To the best of my knowledge there is no such thing as a scientific proof, mathematics yes. . What next LNH are you about to argue the falseness of mathematical proofs or maybe you will to hunt down a 'scientific' study and warp the meaning of a word to suit your purposes,


Perhaps you are right, however, I was calling scientific ideas like 'The Heisenberg Uncertainty principal' a "scientific proof"?

I found this physics website calling it a "scientific proof":
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questi ... ific-proof

Many science "proofs" incorporate probability theory - which brings in integration across the space -- integration is often the whole space -- so negative to positive infinity -- which is what is seen here ... (scroll down)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle



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03 Aug 2014, 6:34 am

simon_says wrote:
We've all essentially woken up in a locked room with no explanation.

Well said.

I've never understood the fear of not knowing, and the subsequent need to make stuff up to fill in the blanks. I can better relate to Feynman's view:

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03 Aug 2014, 12:43 pm

God didn't create me because he doesn't exist, my parents had sex and 9 months later I was born!


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04 Aug 2014, 6:57 pm

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