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24 Jul 2014, 5:20 am

This is not a conspiracy theory fabricated by some anti-Israel people:

This essay originally appeared in Hebrew in KIVUNIM (Directions), A Journal for Judaism and Zionism; Issue No, 14?Winter, 5742, February 1982, Editor: Yoram Beck. Editorial Committee: Eli Eyal, Yoram Beck, Amnon Hadari, Yohanan Manor, Elieser Schweid. Published by the Department of Publicity/The World Zionist Organization, Jerusalem.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... 20East.pdf

Everything predicted in this document is happening today.



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24 Jul 2014, 6:01 am

Do you have any intel on the secret Israeli moon bases?



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24 Jul 2014, 7:09 am

^ Meh meh.



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24 Jul 2014, 8:35 am

Zionists (not "Jews" per se) have always sought power and control. They follow the Talmud and not the Torah. The Torah is where the Old Testament comes from. The Talmud is man-written code that emphasizes taking an active role in the destiny of the Jewish people.

To be fair, if you look at the history of how Jews have been treated in history by pretty much everyone, can you blame them for having a sect that seeks to ensure the Jewish people are so powerful that the injustices forced on them never happen again?



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24 Jul 2014, 9:32 am

zer0netgain wrote:

To be fair, if you look at the history of how Jews have been treated in history by pretty much everyone, can you blame them for having a sect that seeks to ensure the Jewish people are so powerful that the injustices forced on them never happen again?


The problem with this is is its based on ancient, antiquated theology that has no bearing to contemporary geo-politics. The fact of the matter is, Jews are now safer in the west than they are in Israel and the only way that they can secure this 'Zion' of theirs is by pushing out any arabs that are an inconvenience.


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24 Jul 2014, 10:01 am

thomas81 wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:

To be fair, if you look at the history of how Jews have been treated in history by pretty much everyone, can you blame them for having a sect that seeks to ensure the Jewish people are so powerful that the injustices forced on them never happen again?


The problem with this is is its based on ancient, antiquated theology that has no bearing to contemporary geo-politics. The fact of the matter is, Jews are now safer in the west than they are in Israel and the only way that they can secure this 'Zion' of theirs is by pushing out any arabs that are an inconvenience.

Really? Antisemitism in the west is on a massive rise.


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24 Jul 2014, 10:04 am

YourMajesty wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:

To be fair, if you look at the history of how Jews have been treated in history by pretty much everyone, can you blame them for having a sect that seeks to ensure the Jewish people are so powerful that the injustices forced on them never happen again?


The problem with this is is its based on ancient, antiquated theology that has no bearing to contemporary geo-politics. The fact of the matter is, Jews are now safer in the west than they are in Israel and the only way that they can secure this 'Zion' of theirs is by pushing out any arabs that are an inconvenience.

Really? Antisemitism in the west is on a massive rise.


Well, they're not doing themselves any favours in the middle east, thats for damn sure.

If the USA cared so much about the Jews having a country of their own, they would give them some land. Goodness knows they have enough. Course they will never do that, someone else has to foot the bill.


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24 Jul 2014, 12:22 pm

Jews are the last people on Earth to be planning an empire.

We have been the victims of Empires far too often.

The main ambition for Jews is that everyone will sit under his vine and none shall make him afraid.

Unfortunately we are a long way off from that.

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24 Jul 2014, 12:45 pm

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25 Jul 2014, 6:33 am

ruveyn wrote:
Jews are the last people on Earth to be planning an empire.

We have been the victims of Empires far too often.



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Oh boo hoo!! ! You are the only victims of empires! Boohoo!! ;__;

As if the other nations in the Middle East weren't victims of empires for 5000 years!! !
http://www.mapsofwar.com/ind/imperial-history.html


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The main ambition for Jews is that everyone will sit under his vine and none shall make him afraid.


And to guarantee that, you need to become a bloody empire! To steal lands and oil. Look, this document is written, compiled and published by Zionist elites, I am not inventing anything.



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25 Jul 2014, 7:08 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I am not inventing anything.

It's never too late. Have some inspiration: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Is ... iscoveries



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25 Jul 2014, 7:13 am

zer0netgain wrote:
To be fair, if you look at the history of how Jews have been treated in history by pretty much everyone, can you blame them for having a sect that seeks to ensure the Jewish people are so powerful that the injustices forced on them never happen again?


You do know that this is exactly the same mentality that allows Hamas to thrive, don't you?


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25 Jul 2014, 7:39 am

salad wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
Zionists (not "Jews" per se) have always sought power and control. They follow the Talmud and not the Torah. The Torah is where the Old Testament comes from. The Talmud is man-written code that emphasizes taking an active role in the destiny of the Jewish people.

To be fair, if you look at the history of how Jews have been treated in history by pretty much everyone, can you blame them for having a sect that seeks to ensure the Jewish people are so powerful that the injustices forced on them never happen again?


Africans have been through worse. Native Americans are living in reservations. Why don't the Natives get a homeland?? Why are Jews inherently better than natives?


Native Americans have the same rights to own land, have the rights to vote, and everything else white people has. Jews in the Ottoman empire (the closest thing there ever was to an actual Palestine) were second rate citizens in all Ottoman countries except Turkey. Do some research before you spew out crap.


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25 Jul 2014, 7:55 am

The Jewish state of Israel owes its very existence to the British Empire. So Jews actually benifited greatly from the greatest imperial state ever.

Except maybe they ARE victims of THAT empire as well- but victims of misfeasance rather than of malfeasance.

At the end of the First World War Britain and France divied up the Arab lands of the defeated Ottoman Empire. London agreed with European Zionist pressure groups that: "yes...we Europeans can't tolerate Jews in our midst. So lets rob Peter (the Arabs of British ruled Palestine) to pay Paul (European Jewry). Is THAT a plan, or what?"

And - surprise! surprise! - Peter and Paul have been at each other's throats ever since.

So in a sense both Peter AND Paul are suffering from the old British Empire not thinking things through.



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31 Jul 2014, 8:02 am

Native Americans have the same rights to own land, have the rights to vote, and everything else white people has. Jews in the Ottoman empire (the closest thing there ever was to an actual Palestine) were second rate citizens in all Ottoman countries except Turkey. Do some research before you spew out crap.[/quote]

You are wrong. Native Americans have more. If you live on the res, you don't pay. In fact, you collect. some do what the rest of us have to, some don't. they do not need a license to fish, or hunt either. they basically have a nation within a nation. Up until fairly recently, they were considered second rate citizens. Most everything they had, and knew was taken from them. Now they have casinos. Some do very well. Maybe you should live here, and take a look around, before you spew out your... stuff.



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31 Jul 2014, 9:23 am

Kurgan wrote:
salad wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
Zionists (not "Jews" per se) have always sought power and control. They follow the Talmud and not the Torah. The Torah is where the Old Testament comes from. The Talmud is man-written code that emphasizes taking an active role in the destiny of the Jewish people.

To be fair, if you look at the history of how Jews have been treated in history by pretty much everyone, can you blame them for having a sect that seeks to ensure the Jewish people are so powerful that the injustices forced on them never happen again?


Africans have been through worse. Native Americans are living in reservations. Why don't the Natives get a homeland?? Why are Jews inherently better than natives?


Native Americans have the same rights to own land, have the rights to vote, and everything else white people has. Jews in the Ottoman empire (the closest thing there ever was to an actual Palestine) were second rate citizens in all Ottoman countries except Turkey. Do some research before you spew out crap.


And so the Muslim/Christian Arabs, Greeks and Armenians under the Ottoman rule, not just the Jews; all were second-rate citizens, only Turks were the first rate citizens in the empire.