Hi_Im_B0B wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
This assumes that somehow "morality" (or lack of it) causes these crimes. But it isn't it usually poverty and the economic crisis? From what I read on wikipedia this city sounds somewhat similar to Detroit, shrinking population etc. Eventually the poorest people will be left and this is the result. Fixing their economy would be more useful than this I think. Or give the residents a plane ticket to a wealther location.
so poverty is the root of all evil? i would LOVE to tell you just exactly what i think of this theory of yours, but i'm sure it would get me banned from this forum for all time.
truly, one of the most disgusting opinions i have ever heard expressed, ANYWHERE.
trollcatman's post seems quite sensible to me. Civil unrest and crime tend to follow in regions where there are poor education and employment prospects and kids tend to graduate from school to the local gangs, disillusioned with the society they find themselves living in. It becomes a vicious cycle, the more run down the neighbourhood the higher the crime and those that can afford to move out do so and the neighbourhood continues in its downward cycle. Detroit is the classic example of this; since the demise of the automotive industry there, the lack of jobs and poverty have pushed the city to rock bottom.
The average humans' aspirations are quite humble... have a job they at least half-way like, have enough income to feed and clothe themselves and maybe own a car and live in a decent home, own some "stuff" like a TV, cell phone etc and maybe get a girlfriend / boyfriend and settle down one day and raise a family of their own. In run down neighbourhoods there are very few jobs; so little in the way of legal income. Kids go through school with despair in their heart because they hold no hope of getting a job, so they adopt a "why bother with education" attitude, which further makes them less unemployable when they leave. These young kids see no hope of prospering in their society or having the things most of us take for granted. Gravitating towards gangs and gang culture is almost inevitable for many of them... and thus the cycle continues. Businesses don't want to open up there due to the risk of vandalism, robbery or worse; so no new employment opportunities. The businesses that are there gradually shut down or move out. What these young kids need is hope of a future; not a handbook on morality by a cult of scammers. This has to be by economic means and education, I can't see any other way out of the problem.
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