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11 Sep 2014, 9:01 am

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11 Sep 2014, 9:54 am

It isn't the future of American commercialism. It's the future of American malls (the future of those that still stand). Commercialism is thriving as ever but the format has changed. Now it's online and big box stores.

Malls tried to turn the chore of shopping into something entertaining as a draw and for a while they succeeded- mainly because they didn't have any competition. But online shopping is more convenient and big box store shopping is more efficient. Electronic gadgetry is more entertaining to teens so being a mall rat ended.

The mall as a format is over. But commercialism isn't.



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11 Sep 2014, 9:57 am

What's the statute on disused real-estate before you can go and claim it? :P


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11 Sep 2014, 10:06 am

Janissy wrote:
It isn't the future of American commercialism. It's the future of American malls (the future of those that still stand). Commercialism is thriving as ever but the format has changed. Now it's online and big box stores.

Malls tried to turn the chore of shopping into something entertaining as a draw and for a while they succeeded- mainly because they didn't have any competition. But online shopping is more convenient and big box store shopping is more efficient. Electronic gadgetry is more entertaining to teens so being a mall rat ended.

The mall as a format is over. But commercialism isn't.


Janissy, If you look at the history of civilizations, nothing lasts forever. Even China has been transformed through various dynasties. Where is Ancient Rome and Ancient Egypt?

Check out what Dr. Berman says. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzgY20d2MtU



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11 Sep 2014, 10:11 am

cubedemon6073 wrote:
Janissy wrote:
It isn't the future of American commercialism. It's the future of American malls (the future of those that still stand). Commercialism is thriving as ever but the format has changed. Now it's online and big box stores.

Malls tried to turn the chore of shopping into something entertaining as a draw and for a while they succeeded- mainly because they didn't have any competition. But online shopping is more convenient and big box store shopping is more efficient. Electronic gadgetry is more entertaining to teens so being a mall rat ended.

The mall as a format is over. But commercialism isn't.


Janissy, If you look at the history of civilizations, nothing lasts forever. Even China has been transformed through various dynasties. Where is Ancient Rome and Ancient Egypt?

Check out what Dr. Berman says. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzgY20d2MtU


Ancient Rome became modern Italy and ancient Egypt became modern Egypt. In both cases the format changed (analogous to the death of malls) but the overall attribute of dense urban center didn't change (analogous to continued commercialism). Nothing lasts forever but certain themes continue.



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11 Sep 2014, 10:22 am

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What's the statute on disused real-estate before you can go and claim it? :P


No statute since the disused real estate still has owners unless it is foreclosed. Foreclosure sometimes happens to dead malls since some owners stop paying property taxes.

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After being sold by its developer, Forest City Enterprises of Cleveland, Rolling Acres Mall has since changed hands several times. It was in the hands of the Whichard family, known for buying malls and then flipping them for a profit. However, even Whichard had problems attracting major players. Invest Commercial LLC, a real estate developer from California bought the facility in July 2006.[21] A number of employees were immediately fired. The future of the site remains unknown. Although Invest Commercial now owns the enclosed mall, concourses, and the Dillards facility, they do not own the other four anchors' buildings. This could become a problem in regards to the redevelopment of the site.

The building was sold to Premier Ventures LLC in November 2010. They have since ceased to pay taxes on the property, and as a result the city of Akron is attempting to foreclose on it.[22] If the building does not sell at a sheriff's auction, it will be demolished.


Think about the chaos that would ensue if random people were allowed to just go and claim disused property without formally buying it. The chaos that currently ensues (in abandoned houses more than in malls) is their transformation into crack houses and other crime hubs. On the plus side, foreclosed property tends to be pretty inexpensive (although the new owner has to take up paying property tax). You can get a house in Detroit for the price of a car anywhere else. Act now!



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11 Sep 2014, 10:23 am

Janissy wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
Janissy wrote:
It isn't the future of American commercialism. It's the future of American malls (the future of those that still stand). Commercialism is thriving as ever but the format has changed. Now it's online and big box stores.

Malls tried to turn the chore of shopping into something entertaining as a draw and for a while they succeeded- mainly because they didn't have any competition. But online shopping is more convenient and big box store shopping is more efficient. Electronic gadgetry is more entertaining to teens so being a mall rat ended.

The mall as a format is over. But commercialism isn't.


Janissy, If you look at the history of civilizations, nothing lasts forever. Even China has been transformed through various dynasties. Where is Ancient Rome and Ancient Egypt?

Check out what Dr. Berman says. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzgY20d2MtU


Ancient Rome became modern Italy and ancient Egypt became modern Egypt. In both cases the format changed (analogous to the death of malls) but the overall attribute of dense urban center didn't change (analogous to continued commercialism). Nothing lasts forever but certain themes continue.


True I hope this continues: https://www.google.com/search?q=pizza&b ... s_Pizza_(2).jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fcommons.wikimedia.org%252Fwiki%252FFile%253AAurelio's_Pizza_(2).jpg%3B3888%3B2592



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11 Sep 2014, 10:27 am

^^^
the many formats of pizza :o
delicious



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11 Sep 2014, 10:30 am

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^^^
the many formats of pizza :o
delicious


Oh Yeah!! !!

I changed the title a bit of this thread to keep it accurate.



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11 Sep 2014, 10:35 am

Yep...I think malls turn people into Medusas.