Lets go medieval on ISIS!

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ISIS poses an existential threat to western civilization. I am not talking about terrorism. Even if they suicide bomb us and kill 10,000 westerners (not likely ) that will have minimal effect. More people die in auto accidents. * Im talking about if they control mid-eastern oil. Cutting us off means the end of western civilization.
ISIS is evil. There is nothing immoral about killing genocidal, rapist maniacs. The syllogisms say we must eliminate them for both moral reasons and our self interest. Sometimes those two reasons coincide!
Our current ISIS policy is like having a house full of cockroachs. We go in once a day and stomp on 10 or 20. That means we will always have a house full of cockroachs. The only logical solution is to go all in. And yes, that means boots on the ground.
* There were 32,479 traffic deaths in 2011

I'll grab my Frankish throwing axe (as I don't own a gun) and stop chopping fanatics!

Double post - sorry.

@ OP


1- what are you smoking?

2- Where can i buy some?

Western Civilization is already based on genocide, slavery, and colonialism.

The Mideast problem tracks back to the British, and the CIA, trying to get "our oil" from under the people who live there, mostly by killing them.

ISIS are the sons of the fathers we killed in Iraq.

We killed well over 100,000 because they resisted our freedoms.

In the USA we killed the land owners, and called the survivors hostiles, and put them in concentration camps. There they were held as POWs until 1974.

We are the same, now we use drones.

The desire to rule over other people and lands, and to take their resources, enslave them in place, is the main cause of why people object.

Remember Viet Nam, 68,000 Americans dead over some Colonial Massa Syndrome.

Now those same massas are whoring in China.

We The People, of whatever country, are always sold out.

Somalia, Iran, Libya, Iraq, Afganistan, as ye sow so shall ye reap.

So lead the way, fly to Bagdad and take up your flag and gun, march west, and slaughter all before you, for your God gave you everything you hear about.

Aren't they planning to invade Russia or something? I say let them, since they wouldn't survive the Russian Winter. It's why the last few attempted invasions of Russia have failed.

We don't need to do much about them right now, since it seems that there's a good chance they'll fall due to their own idiocy. Then again, I don't pay much attention to that sort of thing in the first place.

Lessee...

If ISIS took over oil fields in -where ever- Iraq or Kuwaitt- what exactly would happen?

Would the ISIS fighters drink all of the oil?

Would they just leave it in the ground?

Most likely they would...SELL it!

And they would probably give us a better price than OPEC, and undercut our "friends" the Saudies, Qatar, and the Emirates.

Or maybe they're such meanies that would refuse to sell the oil at all. Which would mean that would be keeping themselves in poverty, and hurting themselves more than they would be hurting us by refusing to do business.

Or maybe they would sell their oil, but just not to us. India, and China, get more thirsty for oil every day. So maybe they will just only sell oil to those two markets, and not to us. Which would mean that India and China would get oil from ISIS, and would buy less oil from somewhere else, and free up that unbought oil for...US Americans to buy. So it still wouldnt mean anything.

I cannot believe that I have to prove something so obvious. I will send links (when I am off my tablet) that prove that the world is running out of oil and that the military is preparing for a fight over arctic oil.

Currently, more oil is being supplied in the interest of short term profit. It is like putting 2 more straws in that almost empty glass of pepsi. That is why I am against the new pipeline. In the short term we will have more oil for less price but in the long term it is a disastrous policy.
Unfortunately, as the responses to this thread prove,people are incapable of seeing the big picture and only see the situation immediately in front of them.

I agree that even if we secure mid east oil,in the long term (Saudi Arabia has been misrepresenting the extent,tho still big,oil reserves) we will run out of oil. However, securing that oil will give us time to explore other energy sources (wind, solar etc). Do you have any idea how long it will take to convert all the gas stations to electric?
Luckily, most arabs hate ISIS. We will only have to fight 30,000-50,000 (estimated strength of ISIS). That is a tiny fraction of the amount of Vietcong we had to fight.If we keep waiting that 50,000 will become bigger ,stronger and wealthier. They make $3,000,000 a day from selling stolen oil! Thats a lot of money for recruitment and weapons!

I remember decades ago a girlfriend told me," When you say something I think God he's weird. But then I think about it and realize, my God he is absolutely right!" I imagine you guys are experiencing that same AHA moment.