Anyone else here interested in European history?

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11 Feb 2007, 7:39 pm

I've been learning a lot about it recently on my own. It's especially interesting to read about how empires rose and fell.



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11 Feb 2007, 7:44 pm

Yes! I have certain areas in European history that I am interested in that tend to expand and intertwine.



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11 Feb 2007, 8:30 pm

I have an interest in European History, especially that of the Reformation onwards.



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11 Feb 2007, 9:49 pm

I took a post-1500 european history and european nationalism course....Robespierre was friggin' sweet.(I wrote a huge paper on him)...hope I'm able to find a french revolutionary history course.



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12 Feb 2007, 12:19 am

Yes, I am interested in European History, whether, Ancient, Mediaeval, Renaissance, Enlightenment or even comparatively recent events. I am also interested in the history of the other continents.



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12 Feb 2007, 12:40 am

Mostly because I'm trying to write an alternate history novel where WWI wasn't started becuase Franz got iced.


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12 Feb 2007, 1:41 am

I'm interested in Japan.



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12 Feb 2007, 2:21 am

All history is interesting.
Right now, I would like to learn a little bit more about outside Europ (Since it is primarily what is studied in schools)
I would like to start with a little bit on the middle East...


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12 Feb 2007, 6:04 pm

Mithrandir wrote:
All history is interesting.
Right now, I would like to learn a little bit more about outside Europ (Since it is primarily what is studied in schools)
I would like to start with a little bit on the middle East...


I thoroughly agree with you Mithrandir. All history is interesting, and the history of Middle Earth, I mean the history of the Middle East, is insufficiently taught. Which time periods of Middle/Near Eastern/West Asian history particularly interest you? Sumerians, Akkadians, Hittites, and so on or the more recent history post the fall of the Persian Sassanid Empire and the rise of Islam? Or the Achamenids, Seleucids and Parthians in between? If the more recent history, how recent? Umayyads and Abbassids, Seljuqs and Ottomans, or the twentieth and twenty-first century? (yes I know Ottomans lasted until a fair way into the early twentieth century, but I am thinking post-Ottoman here). If ancient, would you have any interest in the Old Testament (or Tanakh- Torah Nevi'im Ketuvim "Law/Instruction, Prophets, Writings" if Old Testament is potentially religiously insensitive)? The reliability of this source may be disputed by some, but leaving arguments concerning revelation aside, Assyrian chronicles are prone to propaganda and still may be valuable sources to historians. Generally, to dismiss a source out of hand is equally bad historiography as accepting uncritically. Does Wrong Planet have a separate history forum, or does it come under Religion Politics and Philosophy, with some recent history under news?

Can anyone tell me more about the Elamites and the Scythians? Also the Picts (see, I am getting back to Europe. And Gandalf, I mean Mithrandir, started it). How did the Medes and Persians become distinct?



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12 Feb 2007, 6:06 pm

Dart wrote:
I've been learning a lot about it recently on my own. It's especially interesting to read about how empires rose and fell.


Yes, the rise and fall of empires is fascinating. Were there any that you were particularly interested in?



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13 Feb 2007, 11:13 am

I find history very interesting. I really find civil wars and revelutions interesting.



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13 Feb 2007, 9:40 pm

Agreed, I find all history interesting, AND important. History, reguardless of where it comes from, is a chance for us to learn from the past, and to better understand human behavior and society. However, nobody said that the truth is pretty either.



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13 Feb 2007, 9:46 pm

I see America being like this generations Roman Empire, as much as I hate to say it we're at the beginning of the end. And not just because of sleeper cells operating in our borders, but also due to national and international depts, a collapsing econimic structure, mass waves of illegal immigration, all the while China is moving up in the world markets. I think China might become the next major leading super power in the world..... Which is kinda scary because theyr a brutal communist dictatorship. Of coarse many american politicians are moving us towards dictatorship as well, more reminiscent of a christianized neo-fuedal japan, and if theyr not stopped we may witness the 1st American dictator in our lifetime, maybe when Jeb Bush takes office in the 2012 election. It's safe to say right now the world map is being redrawn very differently than what people have gotten used to.



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15 Feb 2007, 3:23 am

charlesbronstein wrote:
Robespierre was friggin' sweet.


Friggin' sweet how? With him in power, you could get your head lopped off for calling someone "monseiur". (I mean the generic "you", of course)

European history -- anything up to early 19th century interests me, but not much after that.


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15 Feb 2007, 3:38 pm

snake321 wrote:
Agreed, I find all history interesting, AND important. History, reguardless of where it comes from, is a chance for us to learn from the past, and to better understand human behavior and society. However, nobody said that the truth is pretty either.


True, much of the truth about humans is far from pretty (and I am not just talking about Maximilien Robespiere and Iosif Vissariovich Dzhugashvili (Joseph Stalin) here). So what eras and nations shall we be discussing first?



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16 Feb 2007, 1:36 pm

ping-machine wrote:
charlesbronstein wrote:
Robespierre was friggin' sweet.


Friggin' sweet how? With him in power, you could get your head lopped off for calling someone "monseiur". (I mean the generic "you", of course)



He was a champion of the working man, the Girondins only cared about their petty middle class interests, and only extended the political franchise to petty middle class w*kers like themselves. Robespierre, as violent as he was, imposed price controls, so the poor folk could eat.