Who ruled heaven on this day. God or Satan?
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10 Jul 2015, 8:37 am
Who ruled heaven on this day. God or Satan?
This quote speaks of God choosing Jesus as a human sacrifice to take our just punishment for our sins. Dogma says that we cannot redeem ourselves from God condemnation. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
The above quote shows this as Gods first actual judgement as judge and shows the setting and accepting of a bribe or human sacrifice to corrupt his justice. That justice usually stated that only the punishment of the guilty was acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent. The corruption of God’s usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.
Recognizing that by whatever name you would use, sacrifice, ransom, bribe or payment, would you say such an immoral request and legal injustice would most likely be demanded by a God or by a Satan?
If punishing the innocent is not a just and moral thing to do, I would say that Satan would be the one to ask or demand such a sacrifice.
That would have Satan ruling heaven and not God as a good God would not do such an immoral thing.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
If you agree, does that indicate that Satan was ruling in heaven and not God on that day?
Regards
DL
10 Jul 2015, 9:27 am
GnosticBishop wrote:
Who ruled heaven on this day. God or Satan?
This quote speaks of God choosing Jesus as a human sacrifice to take our just punishment for our sins. Dogma says that we cannot redeem ourselves from God condemnation. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
The above quote shows this as Gods first actual judgement as judge and shows the setting and accepting of a bribe or human sacrifice to corrupt his justice. That justice usually stated that only the punishment of the guilty was acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent. The corruption of God’s usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.
Recognizing that by whatever name you would use, sacrifice, ransom, bribe or payment, would you say such an immoral request and legal injustice would most likely be demanded by a God or by a Satan?
If punishing the innocent is not a just and moral thing to do, I would say that Satan would be the one to ask or demand such a sacrifice.
That would have Satan ruling heaven and not God as a good God would not do such an immoral thing.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
If you agree, does that indicate that Satan was ruling in heaven and not God on that day?
Regards
DL
This quote speaks of God choosing Jesus as a human sacrifice to take our just punishment for our sins. Dogma says that we cannot redeem ourselves from God condemnation. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
The above quote shows this as Gods first actual judgement as judge and shows the setting and accepting of a bribe or human sacrifice to corrupt his justice. That justice usually stated that only the punishment of the guilty was acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent. The corruption of God’s usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.
Recognizing that by whatever name you would use, sacrifice, ransom, bribe or payment, would you say such an immoral request and legal injustice would most likely be demanded by a God or by a Satan?
If punishing the innocent is not a just and moral thing to do, I would say that Satan would be the one to ask or demand such a sacrifice.
That would have Satan ruling heaven and not God as a good God would not do such an immoral thing.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
If you agree, does that indicate that Satan was ruling in heaven and not God on that day?
Regards
DL
One possible interpretation - God and Satan working together in an uneasy, but not impossible, relationship. Couldn't God easily destroy Satan if He wanted to? Why doesn't he? God never destroys Satan. There's your answer.
10 Jul 2015, 9:34 am
God is our Lord, and also God never asked for Jesus Christ to be sacrificed, as God is good.
I'd also like to add that the names Antichrist, Lucifer, Satan and the Devil all mean someone who puts themselves before God, not the fictional creature created in the sick imagination/minds of the Freemasons.
Last edited by The_Eagle on 10 Jul 2015, 9:44 am, edited 1 time in total.
10 Jul 2015, 9:41 am
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
Who ruled heaven on this day. God or Satan?
This quote speaks of God choosing Jesus as a human sacrifice to take our just punishment for our sins. Dogma says that we cannot redeem ourselves from God condemnation. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
The above quote shows this as Gods first actual judgement as judge and shows the setting and accepting of a bribe or human sacrifice to corrupt his justice. That justice usually stated that only the punishment of the guilty was acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent. The corruption of God’s usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.
Recognizing that by whatever name you would use, sacrifice, ransom, bribe or payment, would you say such an immoral request and legal injustice would most likely be demanded by a God or by a Satan?
If punishing the innocent is not a just and moral thing to do, I would say that Satan would be the one to ask or demand such a sacrifice.
That would have Satan ruling heaven and not God as a good God would not do such an immoral thing.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
If you agree, does that indicate that Satan was ruling in heaven and not God on that day?
Regards
DL
This quote speaks of God choosing Jesus as a human sacrifice to take our just punishment for our sins. Dogma says that we cannot redeem ourselves from God condemnation. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
The above quote shows this as Gods first actual judgement as judge and shows the setting and accepting of a bribe or human sacrifice to corrupt his justice. That justice usually stated that only the punishment of the guilty was acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent. The corruption of God’s usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.
Recognizing that by whatever name you would use, sacrifice, ransom, bribe or payment, would you say such an immoral request and legal injustice would most likely be demanded by a God or by a Satan?
If punishing the innocent is not a just and moral thing to do, I would say that Satan would be the one to ask or demand such a sacrifice.
That would have Satan ruling heaven and not God as a good God would not do such an immoral thing.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
If you agree, does that indicate that Satan was ruling in heaven and not God on that day?
Regards
DL
One possible interpretation - God and Satan working together in an uneasy, but not impossible, relationship. Couldn't God easily destroy Satan if He wanted to? Why doesn't he? God never destroys Satan. There's your answer.
I recognize your answer but others may not. A quick yes or no on this question will make all clear.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
Regards
DL
10 Jul 2015, 9:43 am
The_Eagle wrote:
God is our Lord, and also, Antichrist, Lucifer, Satan and the Devil all mean someone who puts themselves before God, not the fictional creature created in the sick imagination/minds of the Freemasons.
I missed your moral judgement and answer to the O.P.
Care to put one?
Regards
DL
10 Jul 2015, 9:44 am
GnosticBishop wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
Who ruled heaven on this day. God or Satan?
This quote speaks of God choosing Jesus as a human sacrifice to take our just punishment for our sins. Dogma says that we cannot redeem ourselves from God condemnation. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
The above quote shows this as Gods first actual judgement as judge and shows the setting and accepting of a bribe or human sacrifice to corrupt his justice. That justice usually stated that only the punishment of the guilty was acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent. The corruption of God’s usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.
Recognizing that by whatever name you would use, sacrifice, ransom, bribe or payment, would you say such an immoral request and legal injustice would most likely be demanded by a God or by a Satan?
If punishing the innocent is not a just and moral thing to do, I would say that Satan would be the one to ask or demand such a sacrifice.
That would have Satan ruling heaven and not God as a good God would not do such an immoral thing.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
If you agree, does that indicate that Satan was ruling in heaven and not God on that day?
Regards
DL
This quote speaks of God choosing Jesus as a human sacrifice to take our just punishment for our sins. Dogma says that we cannot redeem ourselves from God condemnation. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
The above quote shows this as Gods first actual judgement as judge and shows the setting and accepting of a bribe or human sacrifice to corrupt his justice. That justice usually stated that only the punishment of the guilty was acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent. The corruption of God’s usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.
Recognizing that by whatever name you would use, sacrifice, ransom, bribe or payment, would you say such an immoral request and legal injustice would most likely be demanded by a God or by a Satan?
If punishing the innocent is not a just and moral thing to do, I would say that Satan would be the one to ask or demand such a sacrifice.
That would have Satan ruling heaven and not God as a good God would not do such an immoral thing.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
If you agree, does that indicate that Satan was ruling in heaven and not God on that day?
Regards
DL
One possible interpretation - God and Satan working together in an uneasy, but not impossible, relationship. Couldn't God easily destroy Satan if He wanted to? Why doesn't he? God never destroys Satan. There's your answer.
I recognize your answer but others may not. A quick yes or no on this question will make all clear.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
Regards
DL
No.
10 Jul 2015, 9:53 am
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
Who ruled heaven on this day. God or Satan?
This quote speaks of God choosing Jesus as a human sacrifice to take our just punishment for our sins. Dogma says that we cannot redeem ourselves from God condemnation. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
The above quote shows this as Gods first actual judgement as judge and shows the setting and accepting of a bribe or human sacrifice to corrupt his justice. That justice usually stated that only the punishment of the guilty was acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent. The corruption of God’s usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.
Recognizing that by whatever name you would use, sacrifice, ransom, bribe or payment, would you say such an immoral request and legal injustice would most likely be demanded by a God or by a Satan?
If punishing the innocent is not a just and moral thing to do, I would say that Satan would be the one to ask or demand such a sacrifice.
That would have Satan ruling heaven and not God as a good God would not do such an immoral thing.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
If you agree, does that indicate that Satan was ruling in heaven and not God on that day?
Regards
DL
This quote speaks of God choosing Jesus as a human sacrifice to take our just punishment for our sins. Dogma says that we cannot redeem ourselves from God condemnation. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
The above quote shows this as Gods first actual judgement as judge and shows the setting and accepting of a bribe or human sacrifice to corrupt his justice. That justice usually stated that only the punishment of the guilty was acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent. The corruption of God’s usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.
Recognizing that by whatever name you would use, sacrifice, ransom, bribe or payment, would you say such an immoral request and legal injustice would most likely be demanded by a God or by a Satan?
If punishing the innocent is not a just and moral thing to do, I would say that Satan would be the one to ask or demand such a sacrifice.
That would have Satan ruling heaven and not God as a good God would not do such an immoral thing.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
If you agree, does that indicate that Satan was ruling in heaven and not God on that day?
Regards
DL
One possible interpretation - God and Satan working together in an uneasy, but not impossible, relationship. Couldn't God easily destroy Satan if He wanted to? Why doesn't he? God never destroys Satan. There's your answer.
I recognize your answer but others may not. A quick yes or no on this question will make all clear.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
Regards
DL
No.
I am glad you clarified as I thought you were going the other way.
You then think that punishing the innocent instead of the guilty is a moral and just thing to do and you agree with God. Right?
Regards
DL
10 Jul 2015, 9:57 am
GnosticBishop wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
Who ruled heaven on this day. God or Satan?
This quote speaks of God choosing Jesus as a human sacrifice to take our just punishment for our sins. Dogma says that we cannot redeem ourselves from God condemnation. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
The above quote shows this as Gods first actual judgement as judge and shows the setting and accepting of a bribe or human sacrifice to corrupt his justice. That justice usually stated that only the punishment of the guilty was acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent. The corruption of God’s usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.
Recognizing that by whatever name you would use, sacrifice, ransom, bribe or payment, would you say such an immoral request and legal injustice would most likely be demanded by a God or by a Satan?
If punishing the innocent is not a just and moral thing to do, I would say that Satan would be the one to ask or demand such a sacrifice.
That would have Satan ruling heaven and not God as a good God would not do such an immoral thing.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
If you agree, does that indicate that Satan was ruling in heaven and not God on that day?
Regards
DL
This quote speaks of God choosing Jesus as a human sacrifice to take our just punishment for our sins. Dogma says that we cannot redeem ourselves from God condemnation. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
The above quote shows this as Gods first actual judgement as judge and shows the setting and accepting of a bribe or human sacrifice to corrupt his justice. That justice usually stated that only the punishment of the guilty was acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent. The corruption of God’s usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.
Recognizing that by whatever name you would use, sacrifice, ransom, bribe or payment, would you say such an immoral request and legal injustice would most likely be demanded by a God or by a Satan?
If punishing the innocent is not a just and moral thing to do, I would say that Satan would be the one to ask or demand such a sacrifice.
That would have Satan ruling heaven and not God as a good God would not do such an immoral thing.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
If you agree, does that indicate that Satan was ruling in heaven and not God on that day?
Regards
DL
One possible interpretation - God and Satan working together in an uneasy, but not impossible, relationship. Couldn't God easily destroy Satan if He wanted to? Why doesn't he? God never destroys Satan. There's your answer.
I recognize your answer but others may not. A quick yes or no on this question will make all clear.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
Regards
DL
No.
I am glad you clarified as I thought you were going the other way.
You then think that punishing the innocent instead of the guilty is a moral and just thing to do and you agree with God. Right?
Regards
DL
Why would you think I agree just because of one possible interpretation?
10 Jul 2015, 10:03 am
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
Who ruled heaven on this day. God or Satan?
This quote speaks of God choosing Jesus as a human sacrifice to take our just punishment for our sins. Dogma says that we cannot redeem ourselves from God condemnation. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
The above quote shows this as Gods first actual judgement as judge and shows the setting and accepting of a bribe or human sacrifice to corrupt his justice. That justice usually stated that only the punishment of the guilty was acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent. The corruption of God’s usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.
Recognizing that by whatever name you would use, sacrifice, ransom, bribe or payment, would you say such an immoral request and legal injustice would most likely be demanded by a God or by a Satan?
If punishing the innocent is not a just and moral thing to do, I would say that Satan would be the one to ask or demand such a sacrifice.
That would have Satan ruling heaven and not God as a good God would not do such an immoral thing.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
If you agree, does that indicate that Satan was ruling in heaven and not God on that day?
Regards
DL
This quote speaks of God choosing Jesus as a human sacrifice to take our just punishment for our sins. Dogma says that we cannot redeem ourselves from God condemnation. 1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
The above quote shows this as Gods first actual judgement as judge and shows the setting and accepting of a bribe or human sacrifice to corrupt his justice. That justice usually stated that only the punishment of the guilty was acceptable to justice and that it would be unjust to punish the innocent. The corruption of God’s usual justice is what the bribe or sacrifice of Jesus bought. Injustice.
Recognizing that by whatever name you would use, sacrifice, ransom, bribe or payment, would you say such an immoral request and legal injustice would most likely be demanded by a God or by a Satan?
If punishing the innocent is not a just and moral thing to do, I would say that Satan would be the one to ask or demand such a sacrifice.
That would have Satan ruling heaven and not God as a good God would not do such an immoral thing.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
If you agree, does that indicate that Satan was ruling in heaven and not God on that day?
Regards
DL
One possible interpretation - God and Satan working together in an uneasy, but not impossible, relationship. Couldn't God easily destroy Satan if He wanted to? Why doesn't he? God never destroys Satan. There's your answer.
I recognize your answer but others may not. A quick yes or no on this question will make all clear.
Do you agree that Satan is more likely to ask for us to accept an immoral human sacrifice to bail us out than God would?
Regards
DL
No.
I am glad you clarified as I thought you were going the other way.
You then think that punishing the innocent instead of the guilty is a moral and just thing to do and you agree with God. Right?
Regards
DL
Why would you think I agree just because of one possible interpretation?
I am not asking for what interpretation you ave or follow.
This ia s moral/legal question.
Are you able to make a moral judgement on this fairly simple issue?
If you can, please give it.
If you cannot, why not?
Regards
DL
10 Jul 2015, 10:10 am
GnosticBishop wrote:
Why would you think I agree just because of one possible interpretation?
I am not asking for what interpretation you ave or follow.
This ia s moral/legal question.
Are you able to make a moral judgement on this fairly simple issue?
If you can, please give it.
If you cannot, why not?
Regards
DL[/quote]
I don't agree with what I see God doing but He does it anyway. Nothing I can do about it. Just because I interpreted something doesn't automatically mean I endorse it. Why would you reach the conclusion I condemn the innocent simply because you believe God does this? I do think God would do it just by simply allowing it, but Satan could be the one who is the actual executioner but in a court of law, if two conspire to commit an crime, isn't one just as guilty as the other? If one has the power to stop something but doesn't, isn't he held culpable like the one who commits it.
10 Jul 2015, 10:30 am
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
Why would you think I agree just because of one possible interpretation?
I am not asking for what interpretation you ave or follow.
This ia s moral/legal question.
Are you able to make a moral judgement on this fairly simple issue?
If you can, please give it.
If you cannot, why not?
Regards
DL
I don't agree with what I see God doing but He does it anyway. Nothing I can do about it. Just because I interpreted something doesn't automatically mean I endorse it. Why would you reach the conclusion I condemn the innocent simply because you believe God does this? I do think God would do it just by simply allowing it, but Satan could be the one who is the actual executioner but in a court of law, if two conspire to commit an crime, isn't one just as guilty as the other? If one has the power to stop something but doesn't, isn't he held culpable like the one who commits it.[/quote]
"I don't agree with what I see God doing"
Thanks.
To your last. Yes.
Note how easy that was for me. That is why I cannot understand why your answer was not as easy followed by your clarifiers.
Regards
DL
