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17 Mar 2007, 7:13 pm

I just finnished watching a program where they went undercover to bring down a child sex slave operation in Cambodia. The entire time I wish so bad I could have busted up that operation because it made my stomache turn how they exploited these children. And I couldn't help but think I'd have asked them to cut the cameras, because the tv audience at home don't need to see the misery I would inflict upon those pimps and madam's (a madam is a female pimp).
I don't feel that human rights should be administered to these bastards. Whatever the ultra pc people wanna cry about human rights, where were the human rights for their victims? Kids as young as 5! If I had them in my custody I'd torture the hell out of them so f---ing bad that the human mind simple couldn't comprehend the pain I would put those bastards through. I'm talking tearing their eyelids out and pooring salt in their eyes, bamboo shoots under their fingernails, railroad spikes pounded through their navels, and f---ing them in the arse with red not burning knives!
These animals need to be punished brutally, to be hung from their balls in the city square to send a powerful message, WE WILL NOT TOLERATE SEX TRAFFICKING, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN BEING THROWN INTO IT!



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17 Mar 2007, 7:27 pm

I wonder why people get so upset about crimes against children. Adults can also be victims of sex trafficking, but there is very little outcry about it.

Also, people seem to get upset about sex crimes more than other crimes. Kids around the world are dying of starvation every day; in Iraq they are being killed in horrific ways. People don't seem to get so upset about these matters.

I'm not defending sex trafficking of kids by any means, but I think these things need to be kept in perspective. Unfortunately, there are many even worse things going on in the world every day.



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17 Mar 2007, 7:41 pm

The US bill of rights forbids cruel and unusual punishments. So life in prison is suitable for such criminals.



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17 Mar 2007, 8:00 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
The US bill of rights forbids cruel and unusual punishments. So life in prison is suitable for such criminals.


What is considered cruel and unusual for these people? I don't think "cruel and unusual" should apply to them. It damn sure didn't apply to their victims. Well they get what's coming to them in prison anyhow, I wish I could see the guards throw them in the shower rooms and call "FRESH MEAT!! !" See those f---ers get a taste of their own medicine. Because let me tell you, those prisoners WILL rape their child molestor asses.
Also, I do see things like starvation as problems in the world. In fact it's possible to stop starvation now with cloning technology, to clone livestock and vegetation. In fact the only reason they don't is because the Vatican says "we shouldn't play god". So they send christian missionaries into their countries on food drives, but moreso to shove white american christian culture down their throats :roll:
Truth is, also, in alot of starving nations, their leaders control all the wealth and live the high life, hoarding all the resources to themselves while their people starve. Tribalism in it's rawest state. They fear that if their people prosper too much they might overthrow them from their positions of power and tyranny, so the leaders hold the people down.
As I stated in my opening statement here, ***ALL*** sex trafficking is a problem. But it's even worse when kids are brought into it.



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17 Mar 2007, 8:01 pm

Rory wrote:
I wonder why people get so upset about crimes against children. Adults can also be victims of sex trafficking, but there is very little outcry about it.

Also, people seem to get upset about sex crimes more than other crimes. Kids around the world are dying of starvation every day

I'm not defending sex trafficking of kids by any means, but I think these things need to be kept in perspective. Unfortunately, there are many even worse things going on in the world every day.
i agree


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17 Mar 2007, 10:31 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
The US bill of rights forbids cruel and unusual punishments. So life in prison is suitable for such criminals.


This is not quite how it is interpreted. It is taken to mean that the punishment must be both to be forbidden. So, the death penalty is also legitimate.



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17 Mar 2007, 10:54 pm

calandale wrote:
TheMachine1 wrote:
The US bill of rights forbids cruel and unusual punishments. So life in prison is suitable for such criminals.


This is not quite how it is interpreted. It is taken to mean that the punishment must be both to be forbidden. So, the death penalty is also legitimate.


But using the death penalty for crimes other than murder is extremly rare in the US.



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18 Mar 2007, 9:33 am

Punishment - Look, they know its not right, they are most likely aware of punishments (I'm talking BROADLY of crime, all crime) yet people still commit the crimes.

I dont think punishments do anything. In fact, by wanting punishments, you kind of give off the impression that this type of behaviour is ok. You can't really suggest to someone 'this isnt ok' then, after they do it, do it to them afterwards.. It goes back onto the "this isnt ok" but now here's the exception



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18 Mar 2007, 11:42 am

There's nothing wrong with eye for an eye punishment, if they don't wanna have something bad happen to them then they shouldn't have done it to other INNOCENT people first. As far as I'm concerned it's karma.



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18 Mar 2007, 12:06 pm

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There's nothing wrong with eye for an eye punishment, if they don't wanna have something bad happen to them then they shouldn't have done it to other INNOCENT people first. As far as I'm concerned it's karma.


Ya, but they didnt do it to you (so you'd have karma out for you). I think that 'theory of law' would only work if the victim did it.



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18 Mar 2007, 12:34 pm

it doesn't matter, they did it to someone. And their victims are little children, or battered women, who are hardly in a place to stand up against them. Society has a duty to stand up for it's own, to serve and protect, and to administer justice to these animals. It's not something for bleeding hearts.



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18 Mar 2007, 6:49 pm

Why do you keep calling them animals, and then immediately going on to expose yourself as the brutal animal you in fact are by describing the animalistic, brutal flesh-ripping rituals you have planned for them?

I agree with Rory.

People who make extreme decisions based on their gut feelings disgust me. If people like you (who would react violently to something that upsets their feelings) wrote the laws and punishments, it'd be more than just child molesters and traffickers getting their eyelids ripped out and salt poured on them; Homosexuals would receive similar punishments for being gay, as the new legal definition of rape would include any sex not between a consenting man and woman. Vehicular manslaughter of a woman or child would get you 5x the sentence as a man, and come with an ass-raping by a gigantic black man.

THIS is why we came up with the cruel and unusual punishment thing. Because humans care more about their own emotions (since their own emotions are so 'special' to them), and can't be trusted to react logically to something that upsets their worldview.



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18 Mar 2007, 9:54 pm

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Why do you keep calling them animals, and then immediately going on to expose yourself as the brutal animal you in fact are by describing the animalistic, brutal flesh-ripping rituals you have planned for them?

I agree with Rory.

People who make extreme decisions based on their gut feelings disgust me. If people like you (who would react violently to something that upsets their feelings) wrote the laws and punishments, it'd be more than just child molesters and traffickers getting their eyelids ripped out and salt poured on them; Homosexuals would receive similar punishments for being gay, as the new legal definition of rape would include any sex not between a consenting man and woman. Vehicular manslaughter of a woman or child would get you 5x the sentence as a man, and come with an ass-raping by a gigantic black man.

THIS is why we came up with the cruel and unusual punishment thing. Because humans care more about their own emotions (since their own emotions are so 'special' to them), and can't be trusted to react logically to something that upsets their worldview.


Did I ever say that it should be illegal to be gay? There you go putting words in my mouth again. Logically, why do they deserve to be treated humanely? They didn't treat their victims humanely. I'm sorry uber libs have no balls and cry for serial killers and rapists, but I don't.



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19 Mar 2007, 9:32 am

I think you have to practice what you preach. You can't say you are 'humane' when you want to torture people. THEY are the ones who like to torture people. I know an "eye for an eye" sounds good, but it makes you turn your back on your belief. How am I supposed to view a society that looks down on rape and promotes peace but then uses torture to punish? There's exceptions? Well, that'll create some problems.

As well, I think an 'eye for an eye' is best used to 'theft' so you get your stuff back, but removing someones arm after they took yours doesnt bring yours back.

I'm on board that one must always forgive, they just dont have to forget



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19 Mar 2007, 10:15 am

Rory wrote:
I wonder why people get so upset about crimes against children. Adults can also be victims of sex trafficking, but there is very little outcry about it.

Also, people seem to get upset about sex crimes more than other crimes. Kids around the world are dying of starvation every day; in Iraq they are being killed in horrific ways. People don't seem to get so upset about these matters.

I'm not defending sex trafficking of kids by any means, but I think these things need to be kept in perspective. Unfortunately, there are many even worse things going on in the world every day.


i think the issue has to do with kids being helpless and that sexual crimes are pyschologically devastating.

given the choice... i'd rather starve to death any day than to have to face THAT


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19 Mar 2007, 12:58 pm

In this case they should make an exception to the "cruel and unusual punishment" clause in the Bill of Rights and make the punishment fit the crime.