UK 2015 Election Cameron wins, what do you think?

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Can he actually get the ruling majority?

There is a good chance he will have to form a coalition government to get anything done unless he is brazen enough to go it alone as a minority government...!


It's fun watching the British voters punish Labour and Liberal Democrats for what the Conservatives have done...!

The biggest shake up was the SNP taking all but two seats in Scotland becoming the third biggest party, while the Liberal Democrats lost practically all of their seats even though they were the coalition partner.

Thatcher's UK will finally be realized unless all the parties ban together against the Conservatives...!

Finally and most importantly, we can assume the British will vote to leave the EU.

Though will Cameron and his fellow Conservatives follow through on Devolution Max as promised to Scotland for voting to stay in the union?
I think they will abandon it with great flare, setting the stages for Scottish Independence...!


Welcome to Capitalism... Brits!

Tories expected to be short of a majority by one seat. One
https://twitter.com/britainelects/statu ... 0615010306

OUCH

That's gotta hurt

Well they will either been 1 short or have exactly 326 giving them the 1 seat majority over everyone else combined to rule out right.

We don't know for another few hours.

That district voting system is seriously messed up. UKIP or the Greens will never amount to anything because their voter base is spead across many districts, while the SNP can completely obliterate all other parties just because their voters all live clustered together in Scotland.

At this point it looks likely, and if he can't then they'll just get propped up by the DUP (i.e. the Northern Ireland equivalent of the Conservatives). Between them, they have a majority before everyone has declared.


That isn't really what's happening (I mean, obviously, because it makes no sense, but on a level beyond that). The Lib Dems are being punished because they're now being seen as "insiders", and a lot of their votes were essentially "none of the above" - hence the huge swings towards UKIP, which largely just eat up the Lib Dem vote.

Labour had a net gain of seats in England, they just lost Scottish ones because they're seen as not representing Scottish interests. This goes back a long way but they're only being punished at the General Election now.



No you can't... This was a general election, not a referendum on the EU. UKIP didn't win any seats from the Tories, just Douglas Carswell.


Cameron won't want to be the Prime Minister who broke Britain. He'll offer Devo Max, but he'll want English Votes For English Laws in exchange and the SNP might not accept that.

Now, my own thoughts:

- Cameron's decision to campaign against AV is justified from a Tory perspective, although bad for the country
- We need electoral reform, but we won't get it without the Lib Dems in power
- We really need the Lib Dems in power
- Look out for a British PATRIOT act being passed in the next few months - the Lib Dems have blocked it twice, but Theresa May will really try to force it through government now

The Lib Dems were as close to being "in power" as they were ever likely to get for a generation in the last parliament, yet the referendum on the issue of electoral reform, which would have massively favoured their cause, attracted little interest among the public and the proposal in question was decisively defeated.

It's all so ret*d... never even stating exactly where billions of cuts are coming from and yet giving him a majority... people are stupid. Or just plain greedy, as greed is what the Tories seem to stand for. But, really, if I promise the heavens will I be elected? People don't seem to care about reality, after all.

He wasn't the only one who was saying just what he thought people wanted to hear. That's a standard practice that was being done by Labour, the Lib Dems, the Greens, Plaid Cymru, the SNP... I'm not sure about UKIP; I heard they had their plans costed by an independent group but I didn't check it out.

Anyway, they won a majority of the seats, so they form the government. They have the same mandate to do so as Labour had in their last few governments.

The system doesn't work in Scotland because it exaggerates the level of support for SNP - They have 50+%
of voters but won 95% of the 59 seats available to them.The UK Parliament should have proportional representation,which ironically we already have in the devolved Scottish parliament ! UKIP and the Greens both merit more than 2 seats.

I'm shocked that so many people voted for the Tories at all, but I guess I can't blame them cuz Miliband is not exactly leadership material. Still, it's really crappy that we'll go through another 5 years of this.

Well, I'm at least glad that the SNP got 56 seats in Scotland. At the very least, there'll be some pressure from Scotland against the Tories.

I heard that the English papers were calling it the Jockalypse. I thought that was funny, as a scot.

Actually the Tories didn't promise the heavens, they just blamed their actions on the Liberal Democrats.

Labour made a bunch of promises, but they didn't matter because the voters blamed them and the Liberal Democrats for what the Tories were doing.

Anyways the final breakdown is as follows:

Tories/Cons: 331 (absolute majority)
Labour: 232
SNP: 56
Lib Dem: 8
DUP: 8
Minor parties together nabbed 15 seats

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2015-32633008

You need to form your own Unionist parties, don't rely on us south of the border, especially not the UK national parties, we will probably let you down.

The Union case needs be made on sound arguments rather than factionalism that plays into SNP hands.

I have long supported small/partial PR (PR withe a minority cut-off to fit into Westminster seats), I do think it hypocritical of some parties now that are suddenly talking about it, just when it suits.

What annoyed me was the farcical referendum on voting system UK, with the complete false choice of "alternative vote", which nobody asked for anyway.

All the leaders are spectacularly weak. Cameron is not a strong leader (like a Churchill, Thatcher, Blair whatever you think of them), it a relative thing. The collapse of the parties in general. it is a great purge. Perhaps healthy.

Cameron wouldn't have been party leader for long if he wasn't up against Brown. Think how many leader of the opposition they went through in the

Labour didn't just loose becuase of Scotland, they could have won in many urban areas too. They also appear to have been hurt more by UKIP than the Conservative. UKIP supporters who where Labour, were less likely to vote Labour in a General election that Conservative UKIP supporters. That section of ex-Labour supporter had given up on the Labour tribe.

Lib Dem just returned to their core support, they were punished sure but you can discount the 2010 seats from that loss as a novelty serge in support. In a way Clegg was too compelling for his own good and couldn't deliver. It does highlight how fatal one mistake can be.