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15 Jul 2015, 8:11 am

Who is it that receives food stamps?


People who -

- just lost their jobs due to a troubled economy and layoffs and their dependents.
- have many mouths to feed, work forty + hours a week and still QUALIFY because they don't get paid jack sh*t for their hard work.
- are men and women active in the military WHO STILL DO NOT MAKE ENOUGH TO BUY FOOD FOR DEPENDENTS AND PAY RENT.
- are disabled veterans who served their country.
- are old folks too frail or ill to work, or, face age discrimination and cannot get hired.
- are men and women who never had access to a decent education.
- are orphans or children separated from their biological parents.
- are children facing neglect due to impoverished parents.

This idea people are bums just to be bums because they have no desire to make money so they agree, food stamps is the lifestyle worth having is pure hogwash. No one wants to collect food stamps. Everyone wants a job that pays enough to live comfortably.

Where are the Republicans coming from???? Why can't they understand human nature? No one wants to live on food stamps if given the choice. THEY TAKE THE FOOD STAMPS OUT OF DESPERATION. Yet, Republicans can still actually believe, people take food stamps and then they don't want to work. Please.



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15 Jul 2015, 8:12 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Republicans Woefully Out of Touch With Reality...
In other news, Water is Wet!



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15 Jul 2015, 8:29 am

You can pretty much take it for granted - people want to make money. They don't want to sit there on food stamps. Hire them and PAY THEM. Poof food stamp issue dissolves into thin air.

If someone said, I will hire you, give you a minimum of 40 hours a week and pay you $30 an hour + insurance, do you honestly think ANYONE would take food stamps over that???? Maybe something like .00000001% of the population would.

The problem with the Republican Party is they just don't want to acknowledge the vast majority of those who have money do not want to put that kind of money into their business, so they pay people non liveable wages because, surprise! folks want to keep their money. They don't want to pay their employees a lot. They want people to work for free as much as they can possibly con them into - as in interns and volunteers. They want to pay everyone else as little as they can get away with. That's how the world works. Duh. It's not hoards of lazy jerks who want to sit there and do nothing so they collect food stamps. Most people aren't satisfied with just food they want other stuff, too.



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15 Jul 2015, 9:21 am

Reality does have a well known liberal bias.



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15 Jul 2015, 9:26 am

Those that take food stamps out of free will certainly exist, denying the option is also out of touch.

However, this percentage is so small indeed... Food stamps are a last resort to any sane individual
I myself have lived off of them (well, a similar system) for a few months. it was degrading to my own self-worth, even without outside comments like this. These feelings were enough to let me search for a job, any job, which i could do for more than a month without mentally collapsing.

Republicans talk out of their asses, but what else is new...



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15 Jul 2015, 9:42 am

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Those that take food stamps out of free will certainly exist, denying the option is also out of touch.

However, this percentage is so small indeed... Food stamps are a last resort to any sane individual
I myself have lived off of them (well, a similar system) for a few months. it was degrading to my own self-worth, even without outside comments like this. These feelings were enough to let me search for a job, any job, which i could do for more than a month without mentally collapsing.

Republicans talk out of their asses, but what else is new...



So you are going to tell me if there's a job that pays thirty bucks an hour, provides health care coverage, and will give at least 40 hours a week, the average person on food stamps at the moment is going to say....oh no no no I don't want that $1200 a month! I would much rather have the two hundred a month food stamps I qualify for! Okay there might be something like 1 in 10,000 people who think that way...the measly amount of food stamps is better than the $1200 cash...assuming $30 is what you are left with after taxes, not before. So you see, this makes it even worse. If you offer your employee ten bucks and hour think of what that really is after the hideously inflated social security tax! It's a slave wage. This is what is at the heart of the food stamp problem! It's not people looking for a free government food hand out. Hell, most people aren't even satisfied with food they want money and what it can buy. Food is like an unhappy settlement because they can't get nothing else. They would much rather have the job and money. People like to feel needed but they need to be able to pay for basic things, rent and food, at the same time. If you can only pay rent, what are you going to have left for food and if you have kids, they are the ones who will go without if you don't have the money for both. This is the reality.



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15 Jul 2015, 10:01 am

They're not out of touch with the reality that a lot of people think like them, and that what matters isn't the truth, but the beliefs of those with the power to make a change. And, if you're successful in life with your beliefs, why bother to check them against reality?


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15 Jul 2015, 10:54 am

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They're not out of touch with the reality that a lot of people think like them, and that what matters isn't the truth, but the beliefs of those with the power to make a change. And, if you're successful in life with your beliefs, why bother to check them against reality?



A lot of people in this state don't even understand what the party's platform is! They just go along with them because of this or that poll and they think that's who they should vote for because it's the majority. Anyone else gets shamed and it's not even based on anything factual. Basically what the GOP does is shame and humiliate which is disgraceful. They want you to feel ashamed of being hungry, sick, tired, poor, and in the midst of all that shame, to help redeem yourself, declare your unwavering allegiance to the GOP because the Democrats are nothing but lazy, good for nothing, morally bankrupt, illegal, bums and slobs who don't want to "work" for a living. They convince people who work hard yet get paid so little, they are forced to go apply for programs like food stamps all the while supporting this party who would rather see them poor, hungry, in debt and so ashamed they develop depression. It's easy to see through these tactics.

If you don't want to hire and pay people you have no credibility in my book. Talk is cheap.



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15 Jul 2015, 10:58 am

Also people on disability a lot of times receive food stamps...along with the limited fixed income. But yeah cannot say I know of anyone who simply does not try to do anything and who collects foodstamps or other welfare and sits around thinking to themselves 'oh man this is the life'...so republicans who think that is the majority of people on food stamps would be out of touch with reality, should probably get their heads out of the clouds and get back down here to the real world. But to be fair its not all republicans, there are even people who identify as republican on food stamps...so I know they don't all take an issue with it or make those assumptions.

But yeah quite a lot of people on them are working, and still struggling to make ends meet....homeless people can sometimes get them and there are working homeless too, granted there are many homeless who aren't working who might rely solely on things like food stamps and/or food shelves for food. I know there are some who would say of any non-working homless 'get a job'...but they ought to go end up on the streets a few years and then try and just 'get a job' might be a little hard with the unkempt appearance, potentially not smelling to good if you haven't been able to shower/bathe in a while, the stress and what not might aggrevate underlying mental issues, contribute to the development of such things, stress can also contribute to physical health issues these people. And how many 'respectable' employers would tarnish their rep by giving a job to a dirty street person rather than say a nice fresh highschool graduate who might be planning on attending college? And I don't know of a lot of programs out there to help hook the homeless up with job opportunities. So I am willing to bet most homeless people aren't there because they chose it as a 'lifestyle'.


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15 Jul 2015, 11:09 am

It's the Republican Party, not necessarily those who simply show up at the polls and vote Republican. Another thing that annoys me, the GOP make these statements on their social media accounts, shaming those on food stamps, then quickly delete them. Please. Have the guts to stand by your statements after you make them. If not just su and don't make them to begin with. It's so cowardly to say something you know is inaccurate only to delete it a moment later when you get called on it, trying to save face. Show your true colors and stand by them instead of trying to deceive.



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15 Jul 2015, 11:11 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
It's the Republican Party, not necessarily those who simply show up at the polls and vote Republican. Another thing that annoys me, the GOP make these statements on their social media accounts, shaming those on food stamps, then quickly delete them. Please. Have the guts to stand by your statements after you make them. If not just su and don't make them to begin with. It's so cowardly to say something you know is inaccurate only to delete it a moment later when you get called on it, trying to save face. Show your true colors and stand by them instead of trying to deceive.


^ uhh that is very childish.....but yeah I say if you're going to spew BS at least stand by it, instead of deleting it like an ashamed kid because you know very well you're being dishonest and doing something wrong. And these people make up some of our government officials.... :roll:


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15 Jul 2015, 12:03 pm

Republicans are fakers for the most part, most aren't genuinely for smaller less intrusive government but rather just stupidly playing team red against team blue or they feel someone is getting something they don't deserve forgetting the fact they enjoy many of the fruits of other's labor themselves as well. Kind of like how everyone hates congress except their own representative, most Republican voters hate government except when it benefits them. Food stamps are just a total red herring, this is a government program that a lot of people depend on and is pretty irrelevant when looked at compared to other budgetary items. Its like how John McCain use to talk about pork barrel spending even tho it accounts for like less than 1% of government spending. We spend more on stupid s**t like war and weapons development than we do real people, the military is the real welfare queen. Just think about how much money was wasted developing the useless F-22 and F-35 fighter jets, we're probably going to end up spending like $200-300 billion on those pieces of garbage and the taxpayer sees ZERO benefit from it. Not to mention all the wars and military bases around the world. That's not to say the average Democratic voter or representative is much if any better, the mainstream of the Republican party is a special type of evil or maybe stupidity. Haven't decided which.



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15 Jul 2015, 12:51 pm

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Food stamps are just a total red herring, this is a government program that a lot of people depend on and is pretty irrelevant when looked at compared to other budgetary items.


If a lot of people depend on it, it's not irrelevant as measured by the amount of collective misery you can cause by removing it. The ability to remove it or threaten to do so makes you very powerful, so it's no wonder it gets so much attention.

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We spend more on stupid s**t like war and weapons development than we do real people, the military is the real welfare queen. Just think about how much money was wasted developing the useless F-22 and F-35 fighter jets, we're probably going to end up spending like $200-300 billion on those pieces of garbage and the taxpayer sees ZERO benefit from it.


Staying the biggest, baddest, meanest and toughest kid on the block is always a good investment. When diplomacy doesn't work and it's time for fists to speak, it's wise to make sure your opponent will be the one who gets beaten up rather than you.


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15 Jul 2015, 1:03 pm

A global military occupation is not possible or needed for our safety, adopt a stance of neutrality like our forefathers intended and our nuclear weapons will do the rest. A large idle standing army will only lead to war and the restrictions of civil liberties, it will not make us safer. America will never be attacked or invaded by another country on its own soil, its not possible at this point. We don't need to spend trillions to chase around a few goat herders, if we left them alone they'd probably leave us alone.



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15 Jul 2015, 3:20 pm

the GOP represents the middle class. the middle class views taxes as theft. its their money and its being stolen, they blame the people who get food stamps and welfare, saying such people are stealing their money. now they can't buy a 5th BMW or another house. meanwhile others starve to death or are homeless. people are selfish and its those people they represent. its a political group. like the democrats. they don't speak the truth they speak what their people want to hear.



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15 Jul 2015, 3:21 pm

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Also people on disability a lot of times receive food stamps...along with the limited fixed income. But yeah cannot say I know of anyone who simply does not try to do anything and who collects foodstamps or other welfare and sits around thinking to themselves 'oh man this is the life'...so republicans who think that is the majority of people on food stamps would be out of touch with reality, should probably get their heads out of the clouds and get back down here to the real world. But to be fair its not all republicans, there are even people who identify as republican on food stamps...so I know they don't all take an issue with it or make those assumptions.

But yeah quite a lot of people on them are working, and still struggling to make ends meet....homeless people can sometimes get them and there are working homeless too, granted there are many homeless who aren't working who might rely solely on things like food stamps and/or food shelves for food. I know there are some who would say of any non-working homless 'get a job'...but they ought to go end up on the streets a few years and then try and just 'get a job' might be a little hard with the unkempt appearance, potentially not smelling to good if you haven't been able to shower/bathe in a while, the stress and what not might aggrevate underlying mental issues, contribute to the development of such things, stress can also contribute to physical health issues these people. And how many 'respectable' employers would tarnish their rep by giving a job to a dirty street person rather than say a nice fresh highschool graduate who might be planning on attending college? And I don't know of a lot of programs out there to help hook the homeless up with job opportunities. So I am willing to bet most homeless people aren't there because they chose it as a 'lifestyle'.


don't get started with ssi. its been keep low, so there's been no increase in the last 30 years. so as cost of living goes up. ssi stays low. imagine if everyone else got paid the same they did in the 1980s but stuff cost the same as it does now.