destroying satanists

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Im sorry but ive been reading through some of the topics such as the exorcism topic. And its people like 'flagg' and 'skafather84' and 'Kenm' are just showing their complete and utter ignorance and bigoted hypoctitical points of view and bullying other aspies that are christians. I think this is wrong and I think somebody should stand up to these bigots.

(Jesus is my hero I know he doesnt care that i have aspergers)

Last edited by pinder2 on 18 Apr 2007, 12:53 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Just because someone hates Christianity, doesn't mean they're a Satanist.

either way the posts ive read of them have been extremely hypocritcal and have bullied people with not an similar view point.

You did start the thread you know and you should know that not all aspies will hold your views. Now unless you can quote for me a segment where they claim that there is no right to be Christian, then I do not see these people as doing anything wrong there. They just seem to disagree with your religion and to be attacking its claims as factually incorrect. They do have a right to do that. I would not call attacking a particular religion on factual grounds to be bigoted though for a forum.

Yes the only people im attacking are they guys that keep on persistently attacking my beliefs if they stop then im cool with that.

You put your beliefs out as a topic of discussion though. If you hadn't done that in the first place then there would be no problem. You took the risk of this happening. Don't be surprised at the consequences.

Ok but i just wanted to say something from my point of view rather being told by other people how aspies should act.


And please I dont want to be flamed at by anyone.

Well, atheists can come on a little strong. I appreciate your wish to promote sensitivity, but I don't think that the approach that you have taken to it is likely to be productive.

Well, I suppose that is a good attitude.

Flagg is very sensitive to people being bigoted to wards religious members here. So I think you have a false impression of him. Just because he is an atheist does not mean he is not in full support of your rights to be religious.

I'm not as sensitive as Flagg and think religion is a crock.

Jesus doesn't care about anything

Sorry, bad joke...

So...
Satanists believe in God, but believe the universe is led by evil. Atheists don't believe in a god and are therefore totally not the same.

As one big mind once wrote:
'Christians feel charged even when they're not allowed to charge'

I've read some of the posts I think you want to refer to, and I don't really agree. They do not 'bully' christians, they base their views with arguments. They don't say like: 'Christians suck' or something. That's bullying. That's totally different.
Why don't you undermine their arguments instead of opening a new topic, calling them bullies and satanists? That's really weak, I'm sorry.

I disagree but the last thing I want to do is start an flame war. Maybe coz im an aspie I interpreted the sitruation wrong anyway.

gotta correct you on this.


satanists do not necessarily believe in god. they especially don't believe the universe is led by evil. and generally speaking...most satanists are just philosophical atheists. here's the 9 pillars of satanism....realize anton lavey had a weak spot for the theatrical....and although i study satanism, i don't believe in magic. btw, before reading, realize that satan as used below is more in reference to satanism (a personification)....not in reference to the christian mythical figure. take into mind the writing is much more dramatic and poetic than it is literal.


1. Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development", has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!*



*this last one is pretty much lavey calling the various christian sects' bluff with regard to how they blame satan for all the ills of the world...but without those ills, they'd be out of business...and so instead they profit off of what they declare to be evil.

I agree with christianity profiting of the ills of the world, even if I'm apathiest.

ignorance would mean that i'm ill-informed but it's quite the opposite...i've studied the bible. i've also studied historical context and literary context and meanings within and around the writings of the bible and the christian mythology. exorcism is a fraud and there's no court in the civilized world that would say otherwise (at least any court that relies on evidence).


i'm not bullying anyone...just spreading the word....the truth....the might of reality!! !


it's not my fault that believing in invisible beings who intervene in people's lives and yet do not do so in modern times is the popular myth. oh wait....now i remember why they don't intervene anymore....because every single miracle that's reported in the last few years is proven a fake by scientists. so much so that the organized church bodies are normally pretty squeemish about officially calling something a miracle.


look...you're welcome to believe whatever you want to. an invisible deity is about the same as a 24 armed god or an elephant as a god or saying that every pharaoh of egypt was a god. you are welcome to believe whatever you want.....but if you go beyond simply what you believe and look to impliment in the world of reality....fact....science....i will stand up against you there...because you have no right to push your belief on others and i will prove you wrong and expose the holes in your argument whenever i can.


i'm not a hypocrite...that'd mean that i say things i don't do...or do things i don't say...something like that. and i generally walk the talk.


have a wonderful day.

skafather84, I believe they are reacting in this way because they are uncomfortable in their beliefs. They have been challenged, and the only way they feel better is to belittle conflicting beliefs. Its a defensive mechanism. We should give them space, and guide them to resolve their issues in faith either if they stay religious or go non. If they still lash out at us, when we are trying to help them. Then there is no hope.

I'm saying that according to some old, famous satanist (I'm bad in names), and he did believe all was evil. He did believe in God, but he didn't really believe it was a good god.
He is found to be too much depressing by most.

You're however basing on La Vey, a pretty recent satanist. Satanism is much older than 40 years and there are a lot of different kinds of satanism.