I don't trust aspies!

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With all those shootings perpetrated by these angry loners reportedly on the spectrum, I no longer trust any aspie. I mean what are all these supposedly non violent aspies doing to prevent the shootings. Surely if they were truly innocent they would do something right? I don't care that the vast vast vast majority of aspies wouldn't hurt anyone I just want to be safe so to me they're all suspect.

^^Sarcasm

I'm pretty surprised by the amount of xenophobia coming from people on this site. There is so much suspicion and hate being directed towards Muslims. I'm having a hard time understanding how a group of people who are so used to being marginalized and stereotyped based of misguided information can do the exact same thing to Muslims.

^ Which is what I've thought as well..

I feel you, man.

I just read an editorial in the Post-Gazette to exactly that effect (written by a mainstream American Muslim who's currently once again afraid to leave her house b/c of the xenophobia and profiling out there right now).

The support for Trump's Muslim ban makes me literally sick.

But-- what you wrote in sarcasm is basically a dead-on analysis of human nature. Human nature is to want to feel safe, and in this day and age to want someone else to make you feel safe as opposed to accepting that risk is inherent in life and taking responsibility for one's own safety.

That's the same aspect of human nature that led Germans to countenance Jews being first marginalized and then rounded up and killed. It's why history does not precisely repeat, but often rhymes.

What do you do?? Speak out. Speak out, but-- you can't change human nature. It's each person's responsibility to check the worse bits of human nature, and a lot of people don't do it. So you keep a weather eye on which way the wind blows. You try to help when someone else is in the path of the storm. And when you're the one in the path of the storm, you try to be aware of that in time to make like a smart Jew in the early 1930's and GTFOOD.

Phew! You really had me there.

Me too! a /sarcasm/ tag is very much needed on an autism site.
As to xenophobia about Muslims and Islam on wrong planet - maybe I just haven't read those posts because I haven't encountered any.
As to xenophobia and ignorance, fear / hatred of Muslims in general culture - hell yes, and I'm getting tired of arguing this soapbox especially with my white, redneck, ignorant, bigoted, anti-everything rural family. They know nothing about this issue, they don't even know any Muslim people, have not read the Quran, and yet they feel justified in spreading hatred and intolerance of Muslim people and the whole of Islam based on the behaviour of a few people. When I tell them about the experiences of real people - like the "I'll ride with you" campaign to protect Muslim women from violence or shame when wearing religious attire on public transport, they just ignore me and focus on the hate they can spin up to demonise a whole religion.
I'm certainly not Muslim, and that's irrelevant.

In our country we don't have tensions between Christian and Muslim people, and no tendency to be suspicious of our bearded shopkeepers in their traditional garb. Indeed many of them are highly successful.

I'm sure 99% of them have no time for ISIS or any related extremism.

C2V-- We don't have A LOT of them, because most of us know what it is to be marginalized and harassed and are fully capable of the leap of both cognitive and affective empathy necessary to make the jump from "us/autistics" to "them/Muslims."

We do, however, have a small handful of people who either cannot make that leap, choose not to make that leap, or are so dedicated to a far-right platform that their rhetoric makes it appear that they either cannot or choose not to make that leap.

To be fair, most or all of them are not Islamophobes in particular. They're hardline conservatives and also distrust all other immigrants, foreigners, liberals, and sundry "others."

Reaching beyond WP, do I believe that there is a deeply troubling current of Islamophobia in America right now??

Uh, do I have two X chromosomes, opposable thumbs, and an ASD diagnosis???? YEP!! !!

To be quite frank, the last time I heard of rhetoric like this being used so widely against a demographic group, the group was "Jews" and the guy's name was "Hitler."

It shouldn't come as a surprise that the recipients of intolerance often dish it out to other groups whenever they get the chance! It's human nature: We treat others very much the way that we have been treated because that's how we've been conditioned.





Hard line conservatives try to use their politics as way to jockey for status by attempting to look tougher than those "liberal sissies". Aspie conservatives also believe that mainstream society will be more accepting of them if they openly defend the status quo....but it never works. It's the same mentality as black conservative uncle toms who think that if they support the establishment the white man will treat them better and make an exception for them.

I have no issue with Muslims, I want to leave their lands and damn the Jesus freaks who thought by creating Israel it would bring about the end times(I suppose it still might) We should stop bombing their countries so they can stay there. Isn't that what everybody wants? Secure domestic and alternate energy self-sufficiency and then disengage, we're maybe the only country in the world that could do this. Right now we are beholden to the terrorist state Saudi Arabia who behead more people than ISIS and allowed the spread of their sick brand of extremism into our own countries and around the world thru their state-funded mosques and madrasas.

There is nothing tolerant about letting in hundreds of thousands or millions of people who cannot integrate, that creates ethnic enclaves and ghettos, which breeds violence and extremism. LOOK AT EUROPE! They have over 10k EU citizens fighting for ISIS and are letting in millions of unvetted refugees. What is that besides an invasion? Economic migration is not a right, if we are to be a real country with a modern welfare state then we must have borders and control immigration since it can't work any other way. We have more than 45 million people living in poverty in the United States, take care of us! Immigration should be about serving some economic or political interest, I have no interest in a humanitarian immigration policy. Our leaders who have destroyed the home countries of these people should stand trial for war crimes and receive their fair judgement, the American people should not be collectively punished for the sins of the elite few.

Considering the degree to which rancid fish is a part of my countrys native cuisine, I'm very grateful for immigrants coming here and setting up food joints and little neighbourhood shops and generally improving the range of of available options (though I'm not about to stop joking that kebab is "mystery meat"). That being said, there are some quite disturbing developments here, with Daesh-supporters harassing a local mosque, and a fundamentalist group based in Qatar trying to purchase another local mosque. Distrust of people based on their ethnicity isn't warranted, but hardly unexpected in the current climate. All we can really do is take a deliberate stance against actual xenophobia, and at the same time be vigilant against actual suspect behaviour.

Also, I know of only one person with Aspergers commiting a shooting (Peter Mangs), have there been more? I mean, the unfounded speculation seems to come up a lot more often than any actual evidence.

Do you mean, like this?

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As if!

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There are a few strident voices that are regularly extremely prejudiced against Muslims, but this is hardly the majority of the membership or even of the active posters.

Events like the recent terrorist attack bring out certain people, just as lifting a fallen log or rock in the forest reveals insects. This is to be expected.

The majority doesn't support these attitudes, just as the majority of Americans doesn't support Trump's call for exclusion of Muslims. My suggestion would be not to focus too much on the hatemongers.

Yes I have found myself rather disturbed by this as well...and it seems a tad hypocritical.

Can you imagine what it'd be like to have an aspie president? Oh, wait, are you even sure Obama isn't one?

Maybe one of us is just what you need in the White House!

(none of the current wannabes appear to be...)

WP members seem to be mostly atheist/science believers , so there is a lot of making fun of people who believe in creationism/GOD.