What do you think about "nuclear second strike" andMAD doctr

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pawelk1986
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24 Dec 2015, 9:32 am

What do you think about "nuclear second strike" and MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) Doctrine

"Death Hand device" or Perimetr is device that soviet had created in 80's and it still in service in Russian Armed Force and still operational despite is offline now and only activated during international crisis.

It's main purpose it's to launch Russian ICBM if they suffered sudden Nuclear strike that incapacitate Russia and it's command structure by USA, CHINA or any other nuclear capable nation.

It using seismic and light, radiation and overpressure sensors, to detect nuclear explosion on Russian Soil, than check does any high ranking commander is still alive if not it launch all Russian Nuclear arsenal toward the aggressor nation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand_(nuclear_war)

Perhaps USA and CHINA have similar devices.

Some call "the second strike" doctrine a "sore loser" and "cowardly" tactics. Do you agree with that statements? Does victim nation not have right to retaliation?

I would be glad for all you opinion on that?



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24 Dec 2015, 10:03 am

Both superpowers had the doctrine of MAD. Not just Russia.

I didnt know that Russia could even retaliate on "automatic pilot" like that(even with all of their human command structure wiped out). Probably the US had the same thing. Kinda scary: if there were an earthquake, volcanic eruption, or a meteor impact, the computers on one side or the other might mistake it for a nuclear attack -and then proceed to "retaliate" before the humans know whats happening!

About the question: I dunno. You have to at least have the appearance that you're gonna nuke them back if they nuke you first. So I guess either side would have to follow through with the threat of retaliation.



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24 Dec 2015, 10:26 am

i live on a mountain a long way away from any target areas, so a nuclear strike may be a pretty thing to see in the distance, but i would know that my way of life is bound to be disrupted because of it and that would tarnish my excitement about it.



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24 Dec 2015, 2:23 pm

That is the role subs play.



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25 Dec 2015, 8:49 am

I do not want to be around if it happens



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25 Dec 2015, 5:02 pm

Makes me wonder just how precise that technology is they used. Especially considering events like the earthquake triggered Fukushima nuclear burn & release + the Chelyabinsk meteor of 2013. Sure, it's unlikely that a meteor could trigger a China Syndrome level meltdown. I mean, it would have to be just large enough and hit somewhat nearby a power plant, but it only has to happen once...


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