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pawelk1986
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09 May 2016, 4:11 pm

I just heard that ISIS had a-bomb, i wonder what would happen if ISIS attack America, Europe or Russia with it?

I wonder does Obama or Putin would make in retaliatory ICBM overkill attack if this happen to America or Russia, i think Putin would do this more likely than Obama



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09 May 2016, 8:26 pm

Where did you hear this from?



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09 May 2016, 9:07 pm

There is a worry about 'dirty bombs' but there really isn't any worry of terrorists being able to acquire nuclear weapons and the systems used to deliver their payload.



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10 May 2016, 6:12 am

Where did the OP hear that ISIS actually has a nuclear device?

Or is this just more speculative fear-mongering?



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10 May 2016, 10:52 am

Fnord wrote:
Where did the OP hear that ISIS actually has a nuclear device?

Or is this just more speculative fear-mongering?


I heard it on TV, and more specifically in the largest Polish TVN24 news channel. They said that there are suspicions that the terrorists of ISIS, could come into possession of fissile materials (radioactive) :(

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/isis-nuclear-bomb-is-a-serious-threat-warns-barack-obama-a6964621.html


This is what these journalists said on TV,
thanks :D



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10 May 2016, 10:57 am

A dirty bomb is a real fear, how realistic I don't know but it is feasible given the excess of the material floating around especially on the black market. A dirty bomb would cause a relatively minor explosion but would leave a radioactive fallout that could turn a city into the next Chernobyl.

ISIS can be crushed as soon as the US stops enabling the Turks and Gulf Arabs to wage this war, give them an ultimatum; stop all support for militant Jihadist organizations at war with the United States or be considered amongst the enemy yourself. Iran is looking like a much better, much more stable ally, the same with Russia. Two big oil giants, we have one in our own backyard in Venezuela as well as our own huge untapped reserves so we don't need the Saudis or Turks.

Europeans should fear the Turkish-led Islamic invasion much more than any potential Russian one



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10 May 2016, 10:59 am

"Dirty bombs", while terrible, aren't "a-bombs"

Also, how did 3d-printing help ISIS get radioactive materials?


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10 May 2016, 12:13 pm

pawelk1986 wrote:
I heard it on TV, and more specifically in the largest Polish TVN24 news channel. They said that there are suspicions that the terrorists of ISIS, could come into possession of fissile materials (radioactive) ... This is what these journalists said on TV.

First, don't believe everything you get from TV; second, check the sources they cite; third, verify the report yourself with independent sources; finally - and most damning - suspicion is not evidence, and thus does not prove the claim.

The report was likely little more than the TV station using speculative fearmongering to get gullible viewers to keep watching for "further developments" that never seem to come. Each year, for the months of November, February, May and July, a period known as "Sweeps Week" occurs. During these periods, TV stations compete for viewers to increase their "ratings". Those TV stations with the highest rating can command the highest prices from advertisers.

You've been caught up in a Polish sweeps race.



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10 May 2016, 1:00 pm

Fnord wrote:
pawelk1986 wrote:
I heard it on TV, and more specifically in the largest Polish TVN24 news channel. They said that there are suspicions that the terrorists of ISIS, could come into possession of fissile materials (radioactive) ... This is what these journalists said on TV.

First, don't believe everything you get from TV; second, check the sources they cite; third, verify the report yourself with independent sources; finally - and most damning - suspicion is not evidence, and thus does not prove the claim.

The report was likely little more than the TV station using speculative fearmongering to get gullible viewers to keep watching for "further developments" that never seem to come. Each year, for the months of November, February, May and July, a period known as "Sweeps Week" occurs. During these periods, TV stations compete for viewers to increase their "ratings". Those TV stations with the highest rating can command the highest prices from advertisers.

You've been caught up in a Polish sweeps race.


LOL :D
Sweep Week?
Never heard about it, but thanks.



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10 May 2016, 1:28 pm

Fnord wrote:
Each year, for the months of November, February, May and July, a period known as "Sweeps Week" occurs. During these periods, TV stations compete for viewers to increase their "ratings". Those TV stations with the highest rating can command the highest prices from advertisers.


This knowledge is useful. Many thanks to you, good sir! :salut:


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10 May 2016, 1:41 pm

What if ISIS had a-bomb or even H-bomb?

"Ka-boom", probably...

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10 May 2016, 6:38 pm

Q: "How did the ISIS member get radiation burns on his lips?"
A: "He was trying to blow up an atomic bomb!"



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10 May 2016, 8:33 pm

If they had it, they would have used it on Israel by now.


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11 May 2016, 12:51 am

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If they had it, they would have used it on Israel by now.


Then I'm sure America would be next soon after.


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11 May 2016, 8:32 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
BaalChatzaf wrote:
If they had it, they would have used it on Israel by now.


Then I'm sure America would be next soon after.


They'd most likely run into the same problem as North Korea: even if you have the bomb, you can't launch it with just any ol' rocket.

Also, since they seem to want to rule their whole general region, nuking it would seem counter-productive. The again, I'm not insane, so what do I know...


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