Could the US be a one-party state?

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21 Jul 2016, 10:03 pm

He praised North Korea's Kim, seems to love most dictators in fact, which is no wonder... have the Republicans before ever expressed such sentiment, though? If Trump wants to kill the opposition and most (with delegates?) of the party voted for him, which presumably means they endorse his sentiments and desire for murder... so, I'm not sure what he'd need to do in congress to get a universal political landscape (both houses already have a majority of them)... but if he's going to start murdering people and somehow gets away with it then I'm guessing it could succeed.

...also, "we will be a country of warmth"? Who's this delusional ret*d kidding? At least most dictators don't say that... but hypocrisy is always deeply ingrained.

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21 Jul 2016, 10:07 pm

It already is. There's no difference between the Democrats and the ReThuglicans, IMNSHO.

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21 Jul 2016, 11:18 pm

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It already is. There's no difference between the Democrats and the ReThuglicans, IMNSHO.

While I've heard that charge before, the fact remains, the Democrats remain the party of civil rights for the disenfranchised, and champions the social safety net for the poor, disabled, and elderly. That's what distinguishes them from the Republicans.

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22 Jul 2016, 12:07 am

Democrats are the party of Wall Street and Silicon Valley

this thread is pure nonsense, all lies

can't you make the case for Hillary Clinton without lying?

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22 Jul 2016, 12:20 am

Jacoby wrote:

Democrats are the party of Wall Street and Silicon Valley

this thread is pure nonsense, all lies

can't you make the case for Hillary Clinton without lying?

And the Republicans aren't the party of Wall Street, and big oil?

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22 Jul 2016, 12:26 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

Democrats are the party of Wall Street and Silicon Valley

this thread is pure nonsense, all lies

can't you make the case for Hillary Clinton without lying?

And the Republicans aren't the party of Wall Street, and big oil?

It's Donald Trump's party now, not Bush or Cruz

also I'd rather be the party of domestic oil than be beholden than to Middle Eastern oil

so no, it's not! look at Hillary's donors then consider the fact how little Donald has spent

You should go watch Ivanka's speech, I think it might make your head spin!

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22 Jul 2016, 12:28 am

Trump has that dictatorial mindset.....but Congress and the Judiciary would prevent this if he is elected.

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22 Jul 2016, 12:38 am

Jacoby wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

Democrats are the party of Wall Street and Silicon Valley

this thread is pure nonsense, all lies

can't you make the case for Hillary Clinton without lying?

And the Republicans aren't the party of Wall Street, and big oil?

And yet, Trump chose Pence as his VP, who is of the same old boy Republican club of Bush and Cruz. There are many who'd say this pick is just Trump's way to make nice with the homophobic, poverty hating, racist Party who get on their knees to do felatio on the rich, despite all his populist talk.

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22 Jul 2016, 1:04 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

Democrats are the party of Wall Street and Silicon Valley

this thread is pure nonsense, all lies

can't you make the case for Hillary Clinton without lying?

And the Republicans aren't the party of Wall Street, and big oil?

The party establishmentarians don't own the party, the base does. Pence is no LBJ, he's not Bush, he was a pick to appease the conservatives in the party that were on the fence so they felt they had a seat at the table even if they disagree on some issues. Trump is clear about the direction he wants to bring the party and the country and I think his convention showed as much when it comes to trade/foreign/even domestic and social policy. I wonder how much talk about trade and foreign policy there will be at the DNC? I can't imagine all too much, looking at the speakers it seems like they're going all in on the culture war and identity politics. Like Peter Thiel said, nobody cares! It's all a distraction!

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22 Jul 2016, 1:18 am

Jacoby wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

Democrats are the party of Wall Street and Silicon Valley

this thread is pure nonsense, all lies

can't you make the case for Hillary Clinton without lying?

And the Republicans aren't the party of Wall Street, and big oil?

Well, those conservatives will be expecting something in return for their support, especially with a plutocratic homophobe like Pence.

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22 Jul 2016, 1:28 am

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Trump has that dictatorial mindset.....but Congress and the Judiciary would prevent this if he is elected.

I don't have that kind of faith in our institutions; not even the Framers had that faith, as Benjamin Franklin said about whether the government under the new Constitution would be a monarchy or a republic: "A republic, if you can keep it."

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22 Jul 2016, 1:30 am

Will you have a cup of cyanide, or a cup of arsenic? C'mon, it's one or the other!

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22 Jul 2016, 1:32 am

They get not-Hillary Clinton and conservative justices that will uphold and protect our 2nd Amendment whereas Hillary wants to get rid of that right forever, that's okay with Trump. They want somebody that will protect them and keep them safe from our enemies, that's okay with Trump. They get somebody finally that is for real about securing our border and dealing with the problem of illegal immigration, that's okay with Trump. It turns out that Evangelicals have been among Trump's most loyal and ardent supporters this whole election despite everything said about him personally and his emphasis on other issues. The first mobilization of Evangelical voters was Jimmy Carter, he was outsider but one of their own but I think a lot of folks have the wrong idea about these people as it turns out they have bigger priorities right now than petty social issues. Turns out they care about their jobs! If Evangelicals voted the way people thought they would then Lucif... I mean Ted Cruz would be the nominee right now and I think we all can thank the lord he is not and never will be after making a fool of himself on live TV.

Trump isn't beholden to the donor class, he isn't beholden to the banks or any special interest which are all almost universally behind the most establishment and most corrupt candidate in modern American political history in Hillary Clinton.

Did you watch the speeches tonight? I really think be surprised about what you'd hear.

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22 Jul 2016, 2:08 am

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Evangelicals have been jerked around by the Republicans for years now, but said evangelicals keep coming back to them because the Republicans know how to take advantage of their homophobia and science-phobia. I personally doubt Trump will be any different.

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22 Jul 2016, 4:13 am

I can't support one-party rule, whether it be the GOP or Dems.

If a multi-party system couldn't be done here, then both parties should still be around if only to keep each other in check.

@Kraichgauer: I read that only 15% of Evangelicals reject evolution, the percent is much lower among most everybody else.

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22 Jul 2016, 5:59 am

The Republican Party is going to need to reform to stop the Democratic Party locking down the Presidency. If they nominate a viable candidate in 2020 then perhaps they'll limit Clinton to one term. But they need to accept that they can't just keep nominating paleoconservatives. They need someone who is engaged with the realities of the modern world.

(Romney might have been that guy, but he went for it too early, and spent too much effort pandering to the Trump-Cruz regressive wing of the party. He should have let a paleoconservative crash and burn in 2012 and then taken on Clinton)

However, despite the Republicans doing their best to lose the White House forever, the US won't become a one-party state for several reasons. Firstly, and most importantly, it's a completely ridiculous notion that only someone completely cut off from political reality could suggest, and I say that having witnessed the clusterf**k of the EU referendum. Secondly, the Republicans enjoy some regional popularity, which allows them a degree of control of Congress, as well as state and local governments.

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