Why such an age disparity in likely voter demographics?

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49% of the elderly will vote R this year... now, I realize the elderly are more likely to vote identically throughout their life, so a percentage of that is simply voting now as they did in the past... but, if they aren't, if they're voting for the individual instead... does that mean the elderly are more likely to want to emulate him? Are they likely to encourage their grand/children to bully and grope? I'm not trying to stereotype, but I'm honestly curious as to the psychology and political motivation.

Something I have noticed is that older people tend to vote for centrist/moderate candidates of their respective parties, while younger ones vote for candidates who lean more to the right or left.

I can assure you that most guys talk like Trump in that tape. They did before he was born, and they will continue after he dies. He wasn't even saying that it was unconsensual.
Also I strongly suspect that a lot of girls talk like that too.

Oh, btw:

This is true, and it's a problem. I don't think it's a coincidence that the place where comments like those are most likely to be said (frat houses) is also a place where a disproportionate amount of rapes happen. I think these comments are evidence of, and further help to normalize, a mentality where assault is just seen as "boys will be boys."


As someone who has passably presented on both ends of the gender spectrum... no. No they really don't. Frankly, sex talk in general is a lot rarer, though it happens. It's never that aggressive, women are socially taught to be much less aggressive.

Peacesells, you mean he can say it was consensual while the six or so in the last two days alleging sexual assault...? You have an ironic username if so... also, Bill isn't the candidate here, nor did his wife do that, so it's a straw man argument if I ever saw one...

Correct on all counts.



I used to tend a bar at a venue that hosted male strippers. I've heard a lot worse than anything Trump said from the mouths of women as old as 80 and as young as 18.

Oh, give me a break! It happens every-bloody-where and it has nothing to do with it, are you bloody implying that most males are sexual harassers? Most guys I know talk like that and they don't go to university nor rape women, geez!

As someone who has passably presented on both ends of the gender spectrum... no. No they really don't. Frankly, sex talk in general is a lot rarer, though it happens. It's never that aggressive, women are socially taught to be much less aggressive.[/quote]
I didn't say all women, and I think it's significantly less than guys, but I'm pretty sure that it's not a rare thing, bud. But of course I don't have statistics, because no one would make statistics about something like this, lol.

I was talking about the tape, not the rape, maaaan! That's what the thread references to, I assume. Also, as you say, in the last two days... A bit suspicious, I wonder why they pop up now, so shortly before the elections. I think we could at least judge him on what he hasn't faced a trial for yet.
Btw, why do you find it so extraordinary that someone might not mind consexual sex with a millionaire celebrity?

What concernes me a bit is that it seems that if you are a bit of a playboy now and run for some important office they can just say that you raped someone, be it true or not. I don't mean in this election, it could happen in the future too for whatever candidate.

Oh, I almost forgot to respond about the straw man. It is not a straw man! If you whine about someone talking about groping women, you can't do that while sitting next to Bill Clinton, lol. It's just common sense.

Were you there for the male strippers or the chicks?

I'm saying it normalizes harassment, desensitizing people to it. And is by definition evidence of an environment where it's maken light of, given that it's joking about it. This is also shown by places where it's more common also being places where harassment is.


I'm not your bud, bud.


You'd be surprised what there are studies of. I'm sure you could find actual stats. Though for the record, am I saying it doesn't happen? No. Am I saying it happens exponentially, leaps and bounds, less than with males? Absolutely.


"You can just go up and grab 'em by the p****" is not consensual sex. There is no asking first in that statement. His "they just let you do it" assumption does not constitute consent.

This is just castrating people and shaming them. If a guy wants to talk about sex with his budyd it is not illegal so stop whining. At worse it could be immoral, under certain circumstances (for example, if he talks about stuff his gf doesn't want people to know). But in general, talking about sex doesn't equal harassment.

You break my heart here, I thought we were buddies...

Then we agree? It's good that you recognize these evil female harassers!

Lol when a guy talks like that to another guy he won't be like "so dude, I talked to her and asked her consent... etc". Also it depends on the circumstances. For example, if you go out with a girl then she comes to your place and stuff and you make a move, it is very likely that she doesn't mind it. If she does she will tell you, because she's not stupid.

I doubt he was talking about anyone who willingly went to his bedroom. One of the accusers said it was in a pub and they hadn't even talked before groping her... I'm guessing you consider that just banter?

No. I was there because food and shelter cost money.

Actually, it if is true, I'd consider it sexual harassment. On the other hand I doubt that Donald Trump would have much trouble getting a woman to follow him to his bedroom, which you for some reason find unlikely.

Btw above I posted a video that actually shows Hillary Clinton's husband grabbing a p***y out of the blue. I don't get how they can criticize Trump, really. Also, Bill had sex with Peter Griffin.

That's you excused from jury duty.



Why would anyone consider an unproven accusation to be banter?

If you feel not making rapey comments is castration, here's your sign.


You're making a lot of unwarranted assumptions here. Firstly, talking about groping is not talking about sex. Second, I'm pointing out that this desensitizes to the actual behavior, because I believe how we act impacts how we think. This is something called "psychology." It is also, by definition, making light of said behavior.

Or do you deny that frat houses, where this behavior is at its absolute most common, also have a tremendously disproportionate amount of rapes?


You don't make a move before she's given the okay, verbally or otherwise. Otherwise, yes, that's sexual harassment.

What are you basing this on? If it's the same flawed studies leading to the false claims of 1 in 5 that have been repeatedly debunked, including by Kebs and Lindquist (who directed the Campus Sexual Assault Study in 2007), then I suggest you check your facts.