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28 Jan 2017, 11:50 pm

"IT'S NOT A MUSLIM BAN! IT'S WORKING OUT VERY NICELY!" Donald Trump Signs 3 MORE Executive Orders



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29 Jan 2017, 12:27 am

No, it's not an all out Muslim ban. Trump's still letting in people from countries where the 9/11 hijackers were from, but is keeping his promise to keep out desperate, frightened refugees fleeing from potential murder and torture. Really classy, and sure to keep us super safe, as well! :roll:


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29 Jan 2017, 1:20 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
No, it's not an all out Muslim ban. Trump's still letting in people from countries where the 9/11 hijackers were from, but is keeping his promise to keep out desperate, frightened refugees fleeing from potential murder and torture. Really classy, and sure to keep us super safe, as well! :roll:


Oh sure when you put it that way it makes no sense whatsoever.



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29 Jan 2017, 1:34 am

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Kraichgauer wrote:
No, it's not an all out Muslim ban. Trump's still letting in people from countries where the 9/11 hijackers were from, but is keeping his promise to keep out desperate, frightened refugees fleeing from potential murder and torture. Really classy, and sure to keep us super safe, as well! :roll:


Oh sure when you put it that way it makes no sense whatsoever.


Of course.


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29 Jan 2017, 1:52 am

There may be alternative facts regarding the situation you haven't heard yet. Let me see if I can find a Kellyanne video.

In the meantime, enjoy this video of Christian Bale doing his impersonation of Donald Trump's morning routine:



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29 Jan 2017, 2:55 am

i believe trump is not a man who likes to follow other peoples designs for anything he can design himself.

so he will repeal all sorts of legislation and not tell anyone that he is going to replace it with his own design, and people freak out, but when they see how he has planned his own way of dealing with things, they may be more optimistic.

in the case of australia, he has pulled out of the trans pacific alliance, and so people get scared that they will suffer for it.
australians of certain persuasions are alarmed at the perceived negative impacts of this and they go on about how china will rule the waves in the western pacific etc.

but what i think trump will do is make a personal deal with australia that will aid our economy but he just has not told us yet.

everything in good time. no pathetic scrambling to placate anxieties until he is good and ready.

he will treat taiwan like a sovereignty which china will not like, but either they like it or lump it.

they will have a vastly reduced market for their exports using a bowl of rice to pay for a days work, and eventually they will have to give up the idea that if they treat their citizens like lowly paid slaves, they will become rich because greed will cause america to use them due to the savings they seek.

this is good. it brings them into line with reality. do not make life impossible for your population except for if they work all day just to afford to feed their families. make it a level playing field.

his relationship with putin is not merely sycophantic or race based (they look like us white people). he likes that putin will not bend to the will of whimsical masses that would lead the world into turmoil.

stolidity is a major character advantage that trump has, and he will seek out like minded people who understand like he does how it should work.

whatever...i am in the woods in australia so i have no real interest in it.



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29 Jan 2017, 9:46 am

All hail President Mike Pence! I actually do kinda wonder if that's been the plan all along.



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29 Jan 2017, 10:59 am

His business prospects might explain why only some middle eastern countries are being singled out.
How Does Trump's Immigration Freeze Square With His Business Interests?


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29 Jan 2017, 11:23 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
No, it's not an all out Muslim ban. Trump's still letting in people from countries where the 9/11 hijackers were from, but is keeping his promise to keep out desperate, frightened refugees fleeing from potential murder and torture. Really classy, and sure to keep us super safe, as well! :roll:


Yeah, sure.



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29 Jan 2017, 11:24 am

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Goes to show you: an executive order isn't an imperial command.


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29 Jan 2017, 12:35 pm

EzraS wrote:
All hail President Mike Pence! I actually do kinda wonder if that's been the plan all along.


Me too. As I have said I do think it will be using the 25th Amendment to say he is too crazy to be President rather than impeachment. But like with other never Trump plans it probably won't work. I can not see Trump giving up and resigning. Under the 25th Amendment if the executive officers say he is incapable Trump can put in writing that he is capable then 2/3'ds of Congress must override this. Trump will legally challenge any determination that he is incompetent and well might succeed as the language is vague as to what incompetent means and who determines it. I think it is likely Congressmen and Senators are going to have to vote.

Any Republican who votes to remove Trump from office at best will face well-financed primary opposition at worst violence from Trump supporters who believe maybe correctly that there was a globalist elitist coup.

It is not in the political interest for the Progressives to remove Trump. They do think he has mental problems and have openly stated their plan is to drive him literally crazy by resisting as much as possible on as many fronts as possible. They want him to be a total disaster for 4 years to destroy the reputation of conservatives and populists for decades. Removing him for a competent hard right politician would short circuit this.

While we do not like to admit it, sometimes we put ourselves in situations where there really is no way out. That is pretty much what I think America has done to itself. As I have stated I do think the man is mentally unfit for this job. Of course, if he does go off the deep end everybody's plan might be rendered meaningless because everyone will be vaporized. Even if it does not go to that extreme so much damage will be done.


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29 Jan 2017, 1:36 pm

For some detailed analysis of what the immigration order, you know, actually says, see this from a Cornell law professor:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/01/mo ... isleading/

Most claims about Trump’s visa Executive Order are false or misleading

Yesterday Donald Trump signed an Executive Order on refugees and visa entry procedures.

You should read the actual EO, because most of the media and leftist pundits either have not or are lying if they have.

There are some stark policy differences about immigration and refugees over which people can disagree — those were argued at length during the election season. But the hyperbole and frenzy being exhibited in the media and by leftist pundits is hyperbole at best, fakery and lying at worst.


In other words, most of the "reporting" on the issue is just more fake news, as we have come to expect from the mainstream media.


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29 Jan 2017, 5:45 pm

Somebody kill me. Please. :(



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29 Jan 2017, 7:47 pm

Darmok wrote:
For some detailed analysis of what the immigration order, you know, actually says, see this from a Cornell law professor:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/01/mo ... isleading/

Most claims about Trump’s visa Executive Order are false or misleading

Yesterday Donald Trump signed an Executive Order on refugees and visa entry procedures.

You should read the actual EO, because most of the media and leftist pundits either have not or are lying if they have.

There are some stark policy differences about immigration and refugees over which people can disagree — those were argued at length during the election season. But the hyperbole and frenzy being exhibited in the media and by leftist pundits is hyperbole at best, fakery and lying at worst.


In other words, most of the "reporting" on the issue is just more fake news, as we have come to expect from the mainstream media.


Any media reporting questioning the American Il Duce is "fake news." :roll:


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29 Jan 2017, 7:57 pm

It's 100% legal and has happened quite a few times before, the media is overreacting as usual. There is Muslim ban and nobody is owed entry to the United States.