Do you, a free person, see Muslim females as slaves?

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Do you, a free person, see Muslim females as slaves?

In the more right wing of Islam, females are what I would call slaves. I am prompted to think in that term because if I were a Muslim man living under Sharia, I can buy myself a few child brides. There is also little stopping me from doing the same, --- where Muslims live under Sharia law, --- in new adopted countries in the free world. Slavery returns to the West.

Fraternité, if I may remind the English speakers, means a fiduciary relationship to all other people. Slave is appropriate here. Fraternité and honesty also forces that I must look at Muslim females as slaves.

Do I, as a free man, have any responsibility to free these Muslim women, who inadvertently help propagate slavery by their lack of revolt against it?

The West also helps propagate slavery by allowing it into the West.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtY5bv-oxLE

If I, as a free man hold a responsibility, as a free person, do you?

How much tolerance should tolerant nations give to a huge slave trading religion and government system?

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DL

We have no business telling other people how to live.

And also ....

I think it depends. Some women believe in Islam and they follow it. Some women are pressured to behave and treated as second class citizens. If you want to learn about Islam you should watch The Quran Reloaded.

On an individual level, I smile at women wearing hijab if they make eye contact with me. I don't try to initiate eye contact, unless I feel unusually happy and friendly.

However, I would always prefer to patronize businesses which forbid any religious expression in the public area. Personally, the whole idea of the hijab disgusts me, modesty disgusts me, and the kind of religion which boils down to believing it because some old douchebag said it disgusts me beyond my ability to decently express.

By the same token, I definitely don't want to work with people wearing a pendant which depicts death by torture, even in 14k gold. I would love to see laws banning all that heinous nonsense in public accommodations. The christian popular music always catches my attention for its utter banality, just by hearing the instruments, before I pick up on the lyrics. Usually at that point, I get distracted by trying to suppress my gag reflex.

No, I see majority Muslim societies as inherently harmful to most men and women within them due to cultural norms and traditions that we have moved on from.

To the original question, most religions enable people to justify treating women as slaves if they choose to do so. Some muslim men choose to treat women as slaves and some do not. Some christian men, too. Buddhists have a wretched history on that front, much to the dismay of some dabblers.

Societies have a long history of treating women like slaves. There are women alive today, in the US, who had to have their husbands sign off on any disposal of their property under Lord and Master Laws.

Realistically, the Islamic World is a little behind the curve, currently,

More as brood mares and baby machines than slaves....

This concept of free person seems quite weird for me. are we really free? (ok maybe it's probably a north american thing so probably it wouldn't fit me as i'm not american but even americans, do you really believe in your freedom?)

In west we still have tons of problems. I think we should care about it previously than trying to discuss problem's in different cultures. Not because I believe we can't judge other cultures (we can) but because I think it's way more complex, so if we don't do our homework being critical to our own context, it's impossible to have an accurate view on something more distant and complex.

Although many woman in muslim societies are under heavy oppression I doubt to consider it was an inherently or exclusive muslim trait: this patterns repeat itself through most of cultures (even if in different intensities and in different times). So how and from what exactly are we freeing this woman?

Also, I don't believe in top to bottom actions as effective. You can just go and free some people. It takes a lot more than this, and it can be really free if the person isn't involved in this freeing. Anyway, It's obviously a very complicated matter and I don't hope to have any answer for it, just a bunch of random impression.