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05 May 2017, 1:32 am

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Nearly half of self-identified Democratic students at Dartmouth College would be uncomfortable with a conservative roommate, according to a recent survey, while far fewer Republicans registered such compunctions.

Of the 432 students who completed the survey, 63 percent identified as Democrats, compared to just 23 percent who called themselves Republicans.

While 45 percent of Democrats said they would be uncomfortable sharing a room with someone who holds opposing political views, 69 percent of Republicans said they would be completely comfortable with that arrangement.


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05 May 2017, 11:24 am

I think it would be a nice, comfortable bubble, or security blanket, to have American flags and portraits of the Founders, all over the place, and really believe that unconditionally.

Whether or not someone doing that is a total tool, and deceived by a kind of nostalgia, which never actually existed, in real life, he is still in his own element. Acting American in America. Where is the irony, in that. It's the intuitive thing to do.

The radical subversive is the odd-man-out, by default. He reads books on how to sabotage people, socially. Why is it a surprise.



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05 May 2017, 11:29 am

That's unfortunate. I had roomies to the left of me and roomies to the right of me. We shared pizza, and class notes, and wrote each other letters of recommendation. We didn't always see eye to eye politically, but I think that was a good thing.



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05 May 2017, 12:26 pm

-1944: 18 year olds storm the beaches of Normandy into almost certain death.
-2017: 18 year olds need a safe place because words hurt their feelings.



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05 May 2017, 1:05 pm

Sending fit, spirited, young men, into a crossfire, until the enemy runs out of bullets, is not patriotic and not a battle strategy, so much as a human sacrifice.



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05 May 2017, 1:45 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9130

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Nearly half of self-identified Democratic students at Dartmouth College would be uncomfortable with a conservative roommate, according to a recent survey, while far fewer Republicans registered such compunctions.

Of the 432 students who completed the survey, 63 percent identified as Democrats, compared to just 23 percent who called themselves Republicans.

While 45 percent of Democrats said they would be uncomfortable sharing a room with someone who holds opposing political views, 69 percent of Republicans said they would be completely comfortable with that arrangement.

AFAIC, this gives credence to Raptor's signature:

"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." - William F. Buckley

AND, it ALSO seems to give merit to some people's philosophy that Republicans are strong defenders of the Constitution (1st Amendment), while Liberals are manipulators (as in, they want to manipulate the situation to THEIR liking).




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05 May 2017, 1:53 pm

Shrapnel wrote:
-1944: 18 year olds storm the beaches of Normandy into almost certain death.
-2017: 18 year olds need a safe place because words hurt their feelings.

QUITE profound----and, unfortunately, too, Too, TOO true! !

Parents have REALLY got to stop coddling their kids----if the North Koreans don't get us, the narcissists / PCers WILL!!





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05 May 2017, 2:27 pm

Shrapnel wrote:
-1944: 18 year olds storm the beaches of Normandy into almost certain death.
-2017: 18 year olds need a safe place because words hurt their feelings.


^many of the 18 year olds didn't exactly have a choice either, and were pressured into being in the military...plenty of them suffered trauma and PTSD or were just horrendously maimed or killed. Not so sure if storming the beaches of Normandy is a good thing to strive for, epic battle for sure but still terrible.

Also, you live in dorm rooms don't think it is all that bad to want feel safe in them...though not sure being uncomfortable with the idea of a room-mate with totally different political views, is so much about feeling unsafe about it maybe they just don't want to deal with potential drama it could cause or simply don't want to. Plenty of us vs them coming from both republicans and democrats.


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05 May 2017, 2:52 pm

Campin_Cat wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9130

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Nearly half of self-identified Democratic students at Dartmouth College would be uncomfortable with a conservative roommate, according to a recent survey, while far fewer Republicans registered such compunctions.

Of the 432 students who completed the survey, 63 percent identified as Democrats, compared to just 23 percent who called themselves Republicans.

While 45 percent of Democrats said they would be uncomfortable sharing a room with someone who holds opposing political views, 69 percent of Republicans said they would be completely comfortable with that arrangement.

AFAIC, this gives credence to Raptor's signature:

"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." - William F. Buckley

AND, it ALSO seems to give merit to some people's philosophy that Republicans are strong defenders of the Constitution (1st Amendment), while Liberals are manipulators (as in, they want to manipulate the situation to THEIR liking).


This survey had to do with people identifying as Democrats and Republicans...I myself am liberal and am pretty disgusted with both the Democratic and Republican Parties. Either way not sure a blanket generalization about liberals can be accurate if it comes from such a small sample size of 'democrats' not wanting to share their room with a republican. I probably wouldn't particularly want to share my dorm room with a republican or a democrat that likes the democratic party if I was in college. It would make more sense to stereotype democrats off of democrats not all the liberals some of us dislike the democratic party just as much as the republican party.

Also though the bit about not wanting some speakers on campus isn't really contrary to free speech. A college does not have to let just anyone and everyone come on campus to do a speech. Not sure who that one who lots of the students are concerned about is, but maybe there is a reason...would have to look more into it, but either way its not violating anything for a college turn down a speaker visiting the campus if they want.


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05 May 2017, 7:26 pm

It's a moot point for me, because I can't do the roommate thing period.

I tend to be center-right, though not thrilled with the GOP in its current state, but I could care less what beliefs friends or romantic partners espouse.


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06 May 2017, 9:43 am

friedmacguffins wrote:
Sending fit, spirited, young men, into a crossfire, until the enemy runs out of bullets, is not patriotic and not a battle strategy, so much as a human sacrifice.

So I take it you have a much better plane using only ww2 tech to evade nazi held and fortified Europe? It's not like we did what the soviets did and used machine guns to kill our own men who retreat and give guns to only half our troops then send them to attack.

Dday was a needed battle and we had to physically land troops and take it. Which was done after shelling from the ships and bombing from the air.



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06 May 2017, 9:50 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:
-1944: 18 year olds storm the beaches of Normandy into almost certain death.
-2017: 18 year olds need a safe place because words hurt their feelings.


^many of the 18 year olds didn't exactly have a choice either, and were pressured into being in the military...plenty of them suffered trauma and PTSD or were just horrendously maimed or killed. Not so sure if storming the beaches of Normandy is a good thing to strive for, epic battle for sure but still terrible.

Also, you live in dorm rooms don't think it is all that bad to want feel safe in them...though not sure being uncomfortable with the idea of a room-mate with totally different political views, is so much about feeling unsafe about it maybe they just don't want to deal with potential drama it could cause or simply don't want to. Plenty of us vs them coming from both republicans and democrats.

After Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, lots and lots volunteered to get revenge for slaughtered Americans. Similar to post9/11.

The point their making is 18 olds in 1940s were tougher and less sensitive which I don't see how anyone could argue isn't true. 18 old now haven't worked since they were 10, they didn't have to walk miles to school, kids today are far far far weaker then kids back then. Far more fragile and sensitive. That's not all bad but it's gotten far worse. Safe places is stupid. Not like your roommate with slightly right leaning opinions is going slit your threat while you sleep. Left is just about their opinion or nothing else no tolerance of others ideas and values. It's getting sicking

What's next separate classrooms for liberals and conservatives? Maybe separate schools all together



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Isn't this the intolerance the left is always accusing the right of?

hy·poc·ri·sy
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the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.


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06 May 2017, 11:57 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Campin_Cat wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9130

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Nearly half of self-identified Democratic students at Dartmouth College would be uncomfortable with a conservative roommate, according to a recent survey, while far fewer Republicans registered such compunctions.

Of the 432 students who completed the survey, 63 percent identified as Democrats, compared to just 23 percent who called themselves Republicans.

While 45 percent of Democrats said they would be uncomfortable sharing a room with someone who holds opposing political views, 69 percent of Republicans said they would be completely comfortable with that arrangement.

AFAIC, this gives credence to Raptor's signature:

"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." - William F. Buckley

AND, it ALSO seems to give merit to some people's philosophy that Republicans are strong defenders of the Constitution (1st Amendment), while Liberals are manipulators (as in, they want to manipulate the situation to THEIR liking).


This survey had to do with people identifying as Democrats and Republicans...I myself am liberal and am pretty disgusted with both the Democratic and Republican Parties. Either way not sure a blanket generalization about liberals can be accurate if it comes from such a small sample size of 'democrats' not wanting to share their room with a republican. I probably wouldn't particularly want to share my dorm room with a republican or a democrat that likes the democratic party if I was in college. It would make more sense to stereotype democrats off of democrats not all the liberals some of us dislike the democratic party just as much as the republican party.

Also though the bit about not wanting some speakers on campus isn't really contrary to free speech. A college does not have to let just anyone and everyone come on campus to do a speech. Not sure who that one who lots of the students are concerned about is, but maybe there is a reason...would have to look more into it, but either way its not violating anything for a college turn down a speaker visiting the campus if they want.


It is consistent with behaviors by progressives on other campuses.


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06 May 2017, 12:05 pm

sly279 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:
-1944: 18 year olds storm the beaches of Normandy into almost certain death.
-2017: 18 year olds need a safe place because words hurt their feelings.


^many of the 18 year olds didn't exactly have a choice either, and were pressured into being in the military...plenty of them suffered trauma and PTSD or were just horrendously maimed or killed. Not so sure if storming the beaches of Normandy is a good thing to strive for, epic battle for sure but still terrible.

Also, you live in dorm rooms don't think it is all that bad to want feel safe in them...though not sure being uncomfortable with the idea of a room-mate with totally different political views, is so much about feeling unsafe about it maybe they just don't want to deal with potential drama it could cause or simply don't want to. Plenty of us vs them coming from both republicans and democrats.

After Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, lots and lots volunteered to get revenge for slaughtered Americans. Similar to post9/11.

The point their making is 18 olds in 1940s were tougher and less sensitive which I don't see how anyone could argue isn't true. 18 old now haven't worked since they were 10, they didn't have to walk miles to school, kids today are far far far weaker then kids back then. Far more fragile and sensitive. That's not all bad but it's gotten far worse. Safe places is stupid. Not like your roommate with slightly right leaning opinions is going slit your threat while you sleep. Left is just about their opinion or nothing else no tolerance of others ideas and values. It's getting sicking

What's next separate classrooms for liberals and conservatives? Maybe separate schools all together


Safe spaces are not stupid. A lot of those tough greatest generation soldiers who came back from WWII with what was known as "shell shock" could have used them if they were around. Everything from AA meetings to fraternal organizations such as the Knights of Columbus are "safe spaces" , places where people can talk to "their own kind" without ridicule. The problem is the overuse of safe spaces and the use of safe spaces to limit ideas and demonize.


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08 May 2017, 6:53 pm

sly279 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:
-1944: 18 year olds storm the beaches of Normandy into almost certain death.
-2017: 18 year olds need a safe place because words hurt their feelings.


^many of the 18 year olds didn't exactly have a choice either, and were pressured into being in the military...plenty of them suffered trauma and PTSD or were just horrendously maimed or killed. Not so sure if storming the beaches of Normandy is a good thing to strive for, epic battle for sure but still terrible.

Also, you live in dorm rooms don't think it is all that bad to want feel safe in them...though not sure being uncomfortable with the idea of a room-mate with totally different political views, is so much about feeling unsafe about it maybe they just don't want to deal with potential drama it could cause or simply don't want to. Plenty of us vs them coming from both republicans and democrats.

After Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, lots and lots volunteered to get revenge for slaughtered Americans. Similar to post9/11.

The point their making is 18 olds in 1940s were tougher and less sensitive which I don't see how anyone could argue isn't true. 18 old now haven't worked since they were 10, they didn't have to walk miles to school, kids today are far far far weaker then kids back then. Far more fragile and sensitive. That's not all bad but it's gotten far worse. Safe places is stupid. Not like your roommate with slightly right leaning opinions is going slit your threat while you sleep. Left is just about their opinion or nothing else no tolerance of others ideas and values. It's getting sicking

What's next separate classrooms for liberals and conservatives? Maybe separate schools all together


A classroom is different from where you sleep and spend your free time when you're not out doing activities, people tend to want a room-mate they get on with alright if different political opinions would get in the way of that then probably best they don't have a room mate they completely disagree with. Also I was under the impression the survey asked specifically if they would share a room with a republican not someone with slightly right leaning opinions. Either way no I don't think there should be separate classrooms.

The study is to do with democrats and republicans not conservatives and liberals, its not quite the same thing not all conservatives are republicans and not all liberals are democrats...if that makes sense.


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