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11 Jun 2005, 12:54 pm

I meditate each and everynight, I has gotten me intouch with my self, my spirit, my guides, and my love. who eles meditates?


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11 Jun 2005, 1:06 pm

I do... but I'm not very good...

I can occasionally feel my heartbeat in five (5) different places when I meditate... very cool...

When there's no other stimulation around; I hyper-perceive my own body...



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11 Jun 2005, 1:19 pm

try haveng a zen water garden in the back ground, or light world music, instrumentals (it helps alot if they have alot to do with your heritage, I use tradtional celtic music.


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11 Jun 2005, 1:45 pm

Each time I try to meditate I fall asleep. I'm sure meditating would do me good, though. But I can't help but fall asleep. Have you got any tips on not falling asleep?



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11 Jun 2005, 4:31 pm

I meditated for years as I used to be a Buddhist but these days I think its over-rated to be honest - I spend most of my life in a more or less concentrated internalised state anyway, meditation just seemed to get in the way of that but I do loads of prayers and sufi practices - I've done some whirling which is a sufi thing ie the Whirling Dervishes and that's the direction I'm going in very strongly, it's very meditative but it involves movement which is very attractive to me as it gets me more into my body and less in my head which is where too much meditation tends to put me.



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11 Jun 2005, 4:49 pm

i meditate, sometimes, but often including movement (trance dance, it's called sometimes) music (especially drumming) or guided meditation (i guide myself, and in my tradition, it's called pathworking).

TM is neyond me, as i CANNOT "clear my mind". helps to have something to concentrate on (i'm sure i've posted this before, somewhere) - easiest one i've found is the candle meditation, where you just look at a candle, which gives your left hand brain something to do.

the mystical islamic stuff (sufi) sounds fabulous to me, rumio. i think i'd like it, as i can go off on one incredibly quickly when i'm dancing.



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11 Jun 2005, 5:25 pm

I've done loads of dancing too vetivert, I did 5 Ryhthms on and off for a number of years although I never went beyond fairly introductory stuff, you might have heard of it I don't know but it's similar to trance dance which I did some of as well but the sufi stuff is my thing these days - whirling is very beautiful and also involves music as well which makes it a very complete and powerful experience although I hasten to add I haven't done very much of it yet as it's not really something you do on your own, although you can, but it's more of a group ceremonial thing. I haven't managed to find many people who are doing it right, there's quite a few people doing it but to my mind they haven't really understood it, it's got a whole context and tradition behind it that people tend to want to ignore and just do the exotic stuff.



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11 Jun 2005, 10:27 pm

This is actually something I have studied and practiced off and on since I was very young. It seems I started meditating before I even really knew anything about it. I practiced on and off for years with not much in the way of real results. I always had a hard time when trying to stop my thoughts, though I do think it helped me indirectly. Eventually I discovered Buddhism and found that it is nothing more than the science of controlling one's mind.
But the key really is to be consistent. Once I started doing it everyday, and increasing the amount of time, I found some real peace. This was about the time I got into Thai Forest Buddhism. They are very methodical in their practices and I have gotten great results from some of the techniques. Concentration is a wonderful thing and it really can put all the troubles of this world in perspective.
Check out this website http://www.accesstoinsight.org/

They do address the problem of falling asleep, and many other problems along the way. I have found that if I go for a run, then meditate, my mind is alert and my body is easily relaxed.



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12 Jun 2005, 2:20 am

rumio wrote:
there's quite a few people doing it but to my mind they haven't really understood it, it's got a whole context and tradition behind it that people tend to want to ignore and just do the exotic stuff.


so often the way, rumio, so often the way...

i do know about the Five Rhythms, but unfortunately, it seems to be associated with all the new age, white light-channelling, "everybody loves everybody else" brigade, wherever and whenever i've encountered it, so it doesn't appeal (i like a healthy dose of reality in my spirituality!).



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12 Jun 2005, 9:18 am

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i do know about the Five Rhythms, but unfortunately, it seems to be associated with all the new age, white light-channelling, "everybody loves everybody else" brigade, wherever and whenever i've encountered it, so it doesn't appeal (i like a healthy dose of reality in my spirituality!).


which is exactly why I never pursued it more deeply!



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12 Jun 2005, 12:13 pm

The best comment I ever saw on meditation was from my neighborhood crone back when I lived in Madison, who said that literally anything can be a meditation if you approach it right.

Her favorite form of meditation was making things, like her own set of casting runes, blackwork, etc.



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12 Jun 2005, 5:11 pm

rumio wrote:
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i do know about the Five Rhythms, but unfortunately, it seems to be associated with all the new age, white light-channelling, "everybody loves everybody else" brigade, wherever and whenever i've encountered it, so it doesn't appeal (i like a healthy dose of reality in my spirituality!).


which is exactly why I never pursued it more deeply!


yay!



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27 Jul 2006, 8:19 pm

In my opinion, meditation is perhaps the best method for controlling anxiety. Why? Meditation, when practiced over a period of time so that it becomes natural, allows control over emotions and many other of our internal processes. I post this reply in an attempt to offer a solution to some in this community who feel that Pharmaceutical medication is not for them. The thought of drug induced calm may actually exacerbate many of the symptoms of anxiety. Much research has been performed on meditation and how it relates to awareness. As an example, have you ever listened to a certain song and it almost instantly changed your mental state? Your mood? Some of it has to do with frequencies and how the mind responds to them, either naturally or through conditioning. Often, it is us who assigns a particular emotion to the song or rythm. Meditation allows one to access many of these states at will. Control of our own mental states may take more than simple meditation I admit, though in my opinion, it is fundamental. I hope this advice may be found useful.


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27 Jul 2006, 8:31 pm

I’ve fallen in and out of the habit for years. One summer I did it for 8-10 hours a day for about 90 consecutive days. It made me giddy, but when I saw the warfare scene in the middle of “Forrest Gump,” it was all I could do to keep from crying, so I stopped.


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27 Jul 2006, 8:33 pm

I’ve fallen in and out of the habit for years. One summer I did it for 8-10 hours a day for about 90 consecutive days. It made me giddy, but when I saw the warfare scene in the middle of “Forrest Gump,” it was all I could do to keep from crying, so I stopped.


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27 Jul 2006, 9:01 pm

Meditate

To reflect on; contemplate.

To plan in the mind; intend: meditated a visit to her daughter.

Buddhism & Hinduism.- To train, calm, or empty the mind, often by achieving an altered state, as by focusing on a single object.

To think or reflect, especially in a calm and deliberate manner.

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"One can overcome the forces of negative emotions, like anger and hatred, by cultivating their counterforces, like love and compassion."
Dalai Lama :)


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