Communist Party USA

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The CPUSA has an interesting history. It appears that they fought against Jim Crow, which was pretty good. On the other hand, they seemed to take orders from the CPSU (Communist Party of the Soviet Union), while it was in existence, which was not so good.

Their symbol looks interesting, which is posted on their website. It appears to be a hammer, sickle, and gear. This is their website:

http://www.cpusa.org/

I think I looked at their page a while back, since I agree with some communist ideas....however I found it a major turn off that they used soviet union type symbolism and what not, since I find that to be opposed to what communism should ideally look like. I also am not too fond of specifically 'Marxism' because it basically requires violent revolution to reach the final stage which I don't agree with....I think that makes it backfire.

The American Communist Party had taken orders from Moscow - - till Stalin's crimes were revealed to the world. That was an event that had cost the party any credibility they might have had, and had them questioning their own beliefs. Prior to that, they had genuinely bought into the propaganda that the Soviet Union had been a worker's paradise. That, and the fact that they had opposed Hitler at a time when no one else seemed to care, and that they had stood up for the civil rights of minorities, and had fought for worker's rights, made them feel that they were on the right side. They were right in regard to their work in America, but not so much with their loyalty to the Soviet Union.

Karl Marx looks exactly like President Snow.

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^lol

In addition to Pareto efficiency, this is why communism under no circumstances work:

Btw the Soviet union was never true communism. Stalin became a dictator and has warped the meaning of communism in a lot of people's minds and now people think it's atomatically a bad thing. He became power hungry but continued to use the guise of 'communism'.

I can't believe that CPUSA still exists. What do they have, like 7 members, all pushing 80?

BTW, by 1960, it had so thoroughly been infiltrated by the FBI that you might have well addressed anything you sent to them to J. Edgar Hoover himself, instead.

Another reason why communism had gotten such a bad rap was because of it's official rejection of religion, which didn't sit well with many Americans who considered themselves to be a religious people. But Communists in El Salvador had actually incorporated Christianity into their philosophy, particularly with the call of both Christ and Marx to embrace the poor. Then there was the simple fact that capitalists realized that communism threatened their place in the sun, and so used their positions in society to make Communism look as evil as possible.

The CPUSA is still around... Hmm I thought it was dismantled.

Are they allowed to stand for election?

British and American economist, historian and writer Antony C. Sutton, D.Sc., ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_C._Sutton ) had some interesting things to write about the Soviet Union and its friends within the U.S. government.

I'm a bit torn about if Communism can be considered officially against religion. When Karl Marx said "Religion is the opium of the people" he said it at a time when opium was used as a pain reliever. So he was saying that people use religion to relieve the pain and alienation created by life in the capitalist system. Most of the times in Socialist revolutions when religion was attacked, it was because it was used as a tool to control society. Of course it could be considered a contradiction to be a Marxist and a christian, as one of it's core parts is materialist philosophy.
But then again... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism

To be sure, though, outside of the Sandanistas and some other Latin American communists, most communist regimes had cracked down on religion in the most brutal fashion, whether said religion had aided the establishment against the people or not.

"To be sure, though, outside of the Sandanistas and some other Latin American communists, most communist regimes had cracked down on religion in the most brutal fashion, whether said religion had aided the establishment against the people or not."

Yes, that is true. States like the U.S.S.R were very anti-religious (extremely so). But what I was saying was that it's not necessary to be anti-religion to be a Communist. I don't think that Marxist-Leninist "Communist" regimes should be the basis of how we perceive Communism, as the U.S.S.R and similar states were hardly Communist at all (Communism would be stateless and moneyless, two things the U.S.S.R wasn't). One ruling class was simply replaced with another, and I feel that's always been the flaw with the Leninist method to achieve Communism.

(Sorry about my inability to quote properly)

To bad communism does suck and all this is a delusion.

You all want us to earn our keep, or share our keep with everyone whether they deserve it or not?

There is no such thing as 'earn' in a perfect communism, that is why it is morally wrong and does not reward good work and ingenuity.

The cruel, hard world we live in is terrible not just to be terrible, but is meant for those who want to survive to learn how to do it.

Or, we as a society can make things better for everyone, and in particular, for the poor and disabled. Providing a safety net hardly equates communism. In fact, the great religions of the world advocate such a thing.