My Argument with big Far Right Youtuber

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMOaRU ... -WahBkZqWQ

Hey everyone. So today I just had an argument with the right wing Youtuber, Naked Ape over a number over issues such as poverty and racism which I think is very heavy in the South. This guy is a heavy Trump supporter who hates SJWs and has around 143,000 subscribers and millions of viewers.

I was therefore surprised when he responded to my message to him about David Duke and Republican Gerrymandering being racist for targeting Black voters when he said:
"They're voting democratic because they're idiots, democrats are just p**** marxoids who don't think people should have to work for a living and the reason blacks are poor isn't because muh mean white people it's because 70% of blacks are born to unwed mothers. It's black behavior that causes black poverty, and demorats are just capitalising on guilty sh***ibs who've never experienced the ignorance and vice of the present black community to blame it all on muh raycism and gib more money fo dem programs.

I don't care if the republican party is literally trying to disenfranchise all democrats through gerrymandering, democrats are stupid pieces of crap and should be disenfranchised, and the only limit to that action should be the film of ethics that stops us doing things to you that you wouldn't do to us.

You're just some p**** ass libshit who thinks that wypepo are raycis and blacks need more gibs. f**k off, you're the reason why people are voting for david duke, but you're too f*****g stupid to realize it."

I was shocked by this, it appears as though this person was very blatantly racist. But more was to come. A couple of messages later he said.

"I have a lot of better things to do than talk to some marxoid cockhead. Also, family breakdown is caused mostly by women, not by poverty."

That dude is too far gone to have dialogue with. When someone, either right or left, is like that and talks in 5th grade playground insults forget it, disconnect and go do something personally fulfilling.

Yeah, you're not getting anywhere with that person and never will. Also, being on the internet any argument you have with him will not be taken seriously, it will merely be used as a trolling exercise. My suggestion is to move on. Also of note, you're describing a 'partisan' site, partisan meaning people have already made up their mind-- he's preaching to his choir, not attempting to gain new followers. Therefore you most likely won't change the minds of any of his audience members either, so any effort on your part is just wasted time.

The guy is an as*hole, period. If were a Democrat/Liberal type calling all conservatives Nazis, I would feel the same way.

I bet if you met him in person, he'd be totally different from his Internet persona. People like that hide behind their anonymity.

Don't engage with him. It's a useless exercise.

This as*hole doesn't seem to offer any solutions either.

"I have a lot of better things to do than talk to some marxoid cockhead. Also, family breakdown is caused mostly by women, not by poverty."

This raises some questions. If women are the problem, how do we change female behavior?

Most guys like this don't want to change the world. They just want to use women as a personal punching bag, and hang around with other men who will do the same.

typical "MGTOW" nonsense

it's not an argument you can win against this barely literate sicko. He won't be swayed or converted from his racist, sexist, etc etc way of thinking, even if he heard a voice from a burning bush. Besides, he's just seeking attention and seems to be succeeding if so many idiots subscribe to his page.

Rather have dialogue with people who have some kind of sense,and can support their arguments with some logic.

Yeah sounds like reasonable discussion with this youtuber is impossible.

Hopefully he'll take things too far in his videos and end up violating the terms of service and get banned. Then he can cry about that.

That's about what I'd expect from the far right. Nothing but strawman arguments.

Yea' not engaging is probably the best advice you could get

This guy is a typical specimen of the millennial contingent of the US/UK far right. They are a product of the protected "safe space" of internet anonymity. You notice they don't even show their real face on any of their videos. These people would get the everliving snot beat out of them if they acted out their obnoxious internet persona in front of real people.

My speciality used to be dealing with people like this, it is the TRUE art of trolling. Trolling is not the hate filled diatribes such as this idiot has posted, it is the use of juxtaposition and context to challenge challenging and wrong opinions.

There are a few stages in dealing with these situations the first i suppose is to decide whether this person is within your 'weight', its likely that someone like this would eat you for breakfast, especially as you have entered into a jackals den to fight a pack of jackals; not wise.

Fortunately this isnt a realtime situation, IE verbal, think of it as a turn based game, your adversary has made their move and laid out a good chunk of hate, bigotry and BS for you to get a good grip of and counter.

This guy will require a surgical approach, remember your aim is not conversion here, this guy is too far gone, your aim is to shine light on hate and give him a figurative bloody nose in front of PEOPLE ON THE FENCE. (if this is in PM just walk away nothing to gain.)

Detach yourself from any emotional responses, once you start to argue from emotion it all goes wrong and these people know that, facts are your weapons and detachment is your armour.

Carefully dissect each statement and counter THAT statement DO NOT blend your response, you can summarise later.

Use sources that do not open you up for ridicule, using say the morning star or the canary as sources would not help your argument, however using their own sources against them is gold

So by this stage you've crafted your response and you're ready to post..........STOP.

Is it worth it? Yep this guys a dick and he has you pissed off and you are right to be angered, but whose life will this tete a tete benefit? Will it change his life, your life or that of a bystander? Could there be something or someone who is more deserving of your time and energy?

Be the change. x