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NewTime
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23 Mar 2018, 2:19 pm

Some people have said that saying "humans are not apes" is like saying "humans are not animals". I don't think this is an accurate comparison. Humans have been considered animals since the beginning of taxomy. Considering humans apes is only a relatively recent thing.



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23 Mar 2018, 6:38 pm

We are members of the animal kingdom. There is no disputing that we are vertebrates, mammals, and primates.

Birds are vertebrates, too--but we are not birds. Monkeys are primates, too---but we are not monkeys.

We are in the same taxonomic "family" as apes.

Humans rarely consider themselves to be "apes," though. And apes are never considered "human."



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23 Mar 2018, 9:00 pm

NewTime wrote:
Some people have said that saying "humans are not apes" is like saying "humans are not animals". I don't think this is an accurate comparison. Humans have been considered animals since the beginning of taxomy. Considering humans apes is only a relatively recent thing.


This is likely because Europeans didn't know about the existence of great apes for a long time.


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23 Mar 2018, 9:00 pm

NewTime wrote:
Some people have said that saying "humans are not apes" is like saying "humans are not animals". I don't think this is an accurate comparison. Humans have been considered animals since the beginning of taxomy. Considering humans apes is only a relatively recent thing.


Recentness has nothing to do with it. Accuracy is the issue.

The term "ape" includes the African apes: two kinds of gorillas, chimps, and bonobos,-- and it includes the Asian apes: orangutans, and two species of gibbons.

If you draw a line around that group of seven species, ndl call that group "apes" then you have to include humans within the same boundary line as also being a kind of "ape" since some of the ape species are more closely related to humans than they are to other of the "ape" species.



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23 Mar 2018, 9:18 pm

Actually, we're chimps. Or bonobos. There's about a 99% overlap of our genetic codes:

We're Chimps


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