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DarthMetaKnight
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11 Apr 2018, 6:22 am

I just realized something.

When you are applying for a job, they usually won't hire you if you are clearly off your rocker. For example, if I started using racist language and started acting like an as*hole in a job interview, I probably wouldn't be hired.

Therefore, most of these "alt-right" jackasses probably don't have jobs. There is no way that any of them would ever be hired.

This makes them hypocritical, since most of them despise anyone else who is unemployed.

Am I right or what?


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11 Apr 2018, 8:16 am

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
I just realized something.

When you are applying for a job, they usually won't hire you if you are clearly off your rocker. For example, if I started using racist language and started acting like an as*hole in a job interview, I probably wouldn't be hired.

Therefore, most of these "alt-right" jackasses probably don't have jobs. There is no way that any of them would ever be hired.

This makes them hypocritical, since most of them despise anyone else who is unemployed.

Am I right or what?


People are more likely to use hateful language when they believe that they are anonymous. We live in a time where your social media accounts acts as an extension to your resume, so you have to be careful what you post (especially if it has your name attached to it).

Anonymity can sometimes give people a false sense of security, they fall under the impression that they can get away with practically anything... so long as it isn't under their name.

It is unlikely that these people would use the same language and behave the way they do online when in a job interview, since they are aware that it will most likely not be tolerated. Although a few might, and then complain to the Internet about how they are being censored.

Such people would probably reveal their views to coworkers slowly overtime, trying to find people who agree with them, whilst also attempting to keep up appearances in order to maintain job security.

There is a tendency within society to underestimate the impact that social media can have on people's lives, some get it at a time when they are still very young/ immature and posting things which end up backfiring on them when it comes to applying for a job.

Even when you post anonymously, there are still ways to trace things back to you, and people don't always realise this. But it is possible for employers to hire such people if a quick Google search on them doesn't come up with any evidence of general misconduct.

It is not uncommon for people to alter their social media pages when attempting to go into employment, in order to appear more employable.


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11 Apr 2018, 11:20 am

Nobody would act like an ass in a job interview, because that's the opportunity for everyone to put their best foot forward.


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11 Apr 2018, 6:22 pm

I suspect a great many Alt Right trolls are the type never to look for employment as long as mom and dad flip the bill. That's all the while they hypocritically attack people on disability or welfare as worthless leeches and eaters.


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12 Apr 2018, 2:26 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
I just realized something.

When you are applying for a job, they usually won't hire you if you are clearly off your rocker. For example, if I started using racist language and started acting like an as*hole in a job interview, I probably wouldn't be hired.

Therefore, most of these "alt-right" jackasses probably don't have jobs. There is no way that any of them would ever be hired.

This makes them hypocritical, since most of them despise anyone else who is unemployed.

Am I right or what?


You mean alt-left wing jackasses, right? :mrgreen:

Most people on welfare are left wingers...
A simple observational fact...

I don't blame them...
Almost everyone embraces policies which benefit their personal circumstances...myself included... :wink:

BTW, are you off your rocker often? :mrgreen:

Kraichgauer wrote:
I suspect a great many Alt Right trolls are the type never to look for employment as long as mom and dad flip the bill. That's all the while they hypocritically attack people on disability or welfare as worthless leeches and eaters.


There are leeches on both sides of the political divide...

Most people on welfare need welfare...
Some abuse the system...
An attitude of entitlement is apolitical...



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12 Apr 2018, 2:35 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
Nobody would act like an ass in a job interview, because that's the opportunity for everyone to put their best foot forward.


That assumes someone wants to work and is not simply satisfying the needs to qualify for social security...



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12 Apr 2018, 3:31 pm

Pepe wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
I just realized something.

When you are applying for a job, they usually won't hire you if you are clearly off your rocker. For example, if I started using racist language and started acting like an as*hole in a job interview, I probably wouldn't be hired.

Therefore, most of these "alt-right" jackasses probably don't have jobs. There is no way that any of them would ever be hired.

This makes them hypocritical, since most of them despise anyone else who is unemployed.

Am I right or what?


You mean alt-left wing jackasses, right? :mrgreen:

Most people on welfare are left wingers...
A simple observational fact...

I don't blame them...
Almost everyone embraces policies which benefit their personal circumstances...myself included... :wink:

BTW, are you off your rocker often? :mrgreen:

Kraichgauer wrote:
I suspect a great many Alt Right trolls are the type never to look for employment as long as mom and dad flip the bill. That's all the while they hypocritically attack people on disability or welfare as worthless leeches and eaters.


There are leeches on both sides of the political divide...

Most people on welfare need welfare...
Some abuse the system...
An attitude of entitlement is apolitical...


Just that the Alt Right don't want to understand that most people on welfare actually need it.


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12 Apr 2018, 3:40 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Most people on welfare need welfare...
Some abuse the system...
An attitude of entitlement is apolitical...


Just that the Alt-Right don't want to understand that most people on welfare actually need it.


Emphatically disagree...
It isn't that they don't want to understand...
It is a case of them being incapable of understanding...
Most alt. right gorilla thugs simply don't have the intellectual capacity... :mrgreen:



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12 Apr 2018, 6:39 pm

Pepe wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Most people on welfare need welfare...
Some abuse the system...
An attitude of entitlement is apolitical...


Just that the Alt-Right don't want to understand that most people on welfare actually need it.


Emphatically disagree...
It isn't that they don't want to understand...
It is a case of them being incapable of understanding...
Most alt. right gorilla thugs simply don't have the intellectual capacity... :mrgreen:


Maybe so.


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12 Apr 2018, 6:52 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
I just realized something.

When you are applying for a job, they usually won't hire you if you are clearly off your rocker. For example, if I started using racist language and started acting like an as*hole in a job interview, I probably wouldn't be hired.

Therefore, most of these "alt-right" jackasses probably don't have jobs. There is no way that any of them would ever be hired.

This makes them hypocritical, since most of them despise anyone else who is unemployed.

Am I right or what?


These days a lot of internet trolls may actually be Russian agents. I think I've become fairly good at spotting these via logical deduction and my many years of experience observing patterns in online comments. I believe the Russian trolls are more likely to make out of context political comments, and there are differences between the ways that Americans and Russians troll, and differences in the ways that Russians troll and Americans vent.

So to answer your question, most of those trolls have jobs...they are professional trolls.

As for actual American trolls, I think their real life personas are actually very varied. However a large number of them may actually be minors, typically teenaged boys.



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12 Apr 2018, 7:39 pm

Trolling, to me, is a total waste of a potentially creative mind.



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13 Apr 2018, 2:16 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Trolling, to me, is a total waste of a potentially creative mind.


Genuine classic trolling revolves around the power of influencing/manipulating other people's emotions...
Schoolyard bully stuff...

And why do they do it?
Using Jordan Peterson's lobster/serotonin model, having power over others gives a pleasurable serotonin hit to the perpetrator...
In essence, they are slaves to their biological urges...
Classic trolls are simply serotonin junkies... <shrug>



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15 Apr 2018, 7:25 pm

Pepe wrote:
Genuine classic trolling revolves around the power of influencing/manipulating other people's emotions...
Schoolyard bully stuff...

In a way, yes, but the huge difference is that with the schoolyard bully type there is no escaping them but to fight back or let them have thier way.
With internet trolls there is always the option to not read their posts if they upset you. It's easy and it's free but some people can't seem to bring themselves to simply abstain.

I oftentimes find trolls to be amusing so I spar with them for my own entertainment. If I tire of them I just skip over thier posts the same as I'd step over a pile of dog turds. I can't get s**t on my foot if I don't step in it.

It's obvious to me that some people crave abuse but can't admit to it. Instead they blame thier shortcomings on trolls even though the troll is providing a needed service to them.


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15 Apr 2018, 8:15 pm

Raptor wrote:
With internet trolls there is always the option to not read their posts if they upset you. It's easy and it's free but some people can't seem to bring themselves to simply abstain.

Agreed...

Raptor wrote:
I oftentimes find trolls to be amusing so I spar with them for my own entertainment. If I tire of them I just skip over their posts the same as I'd step over a pile of dog turds. I can't get s**t on my foot if I don't step in it.

As a default, I "don't feed the trolls"...
But there are times I feel mischievous... :mrgreen:
Most garden variety trolls (not dedicated, focused, sponsored harassers) run for the hills away from me...Bwahahaha...



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15 Apr 2018, 9:36 pm

I think most far-anything trolls are probably unemployed. I mean, any time there’s a big #metoo protest or blm event, where are the counterprotestors? I realize the media avoids showing counter presence. But, still, if it matters that much to conservatives, you’d think they’d be turning out in droves. You’d think that their presence would be to big to ignore. Instead, what you get are the crazy neo-Nazis or whatever running people over with cars.

And that’s exactly what’s happening. Your liberals are either your academic elite types, union activists, or perpetually unemployed who either are out of work or find it easy to take days off. If not, I really think they’re just homeless or mentally ill folks getting paid to turn out.

Conservatives are less likely to be unemployed, or they hold jobs that don’t allow them the time for that sort of thing. That’s where the fed-up racists come in because, no, obviously these guys can’t hold down a job despite their core beliefs and values.

So, yeah, I’d say that’s plausible.



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15 Apr 2018, 10:14 pm

Honestly, I think young folks with "edgy" political views are going through a sort-of rebellious stage in life. Most of them grow out of it. The few that don't, some of us like to call them "neetsocs" -- y'know, the kind of guys that were holding tiki torches in a protest:

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As for explicitly "alt-right trolls", honestly, why just "alt-right"? Trolling is big, regardless of ideology, and it's mostly among teenagers online (and maybe of course the aforementioned neetsocs, and just neets in general). :|
Granted, the "Alt-right" is going to have more potential for trolling as, one could argue, the movement was started online and is heavily based on internet culture, which is quite a negative culture to begin with.


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