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24 Apr 2018, 6:17 pm

But only let the world leaders be allowed to use it non-medicinally. Because dope makes people just not care about anything anymore, right? So if they all sit around getting stoned they won't care about fighting and killing and having WWIII anymore, and we'll finally have peace.

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Of course, they won't care about the stuff they need to do to *help* the world, either. But they did, so why should they start? :roll:



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24 Apr 2018, 9:31 pm

I think they should as well. The ones who are most opposed to it are the deepest in the pockets of Big Pharma.


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24 Apr 2018, 9:40 pm

More important is making the medical products available publicly. There's no statistically significant reason anyone shouldn't be able to try it as a treatment option.


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25 Apr 2018, 4:51 pm

The problem with "weed" is that it affects young developing brains...negatively...
There is also a link between Mary and schizophrenia...
And it affects self-motivation which would reduce economic productivity...

But nothing is perfect...
It is a matter of assessing the pros and cons and determining which wins out...

Personally, I think pragmatic considerations are more important than mainstream so-called moral points of view...

Meh...
I don't take any drugs/alcohol...
I get stoned on coffee/caffeine due to my hypersensitivity...
Hence, some of my "interesting" posts... :mrgreen:



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25 Apr 2018, 5:41 pm

A lot of people who use it don’t want it legal. They’d have to pay taxes then.

In my city weed is taxed 60%
State taxes 20% then county taxes 20% and the city decided to tax it 20%

Atleast that’s how I read it from the ballot measures to raise tax on it with passed
County and city both raised their taxes on it to 20%. So unless county doesn’t tax weed sold in cities that tax it then it has a big tax on weed.
Democrats love to tax



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25 Apr 2018, 5:55 pm

sly279 wrote:
A lot of people who use it don’t want it legal. They’d have to pay taxes then.

In my city weed is taxed 60%
State taxes 20% then county taxes 20% and the city decided to tax it 20%

Atleast that’s how I read it from the ballot measures to raise tax on it with passed
County and city both raised their taxes on it to 20%. So unless county doesn’t tax weed sold in cities that tax it then it has a big tax on weed.
Democrats love to tax


That surprises me...
That buying it illegally is less expensive...<shrug>

Smoking cigarettes puts a lot of stress on government medical funding here, so I can understand the huge taxes on them to recoup some of the losses...
Maybe the same applies to weed?...<shrug>



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25 Apr 2018, 6:07 pm

It's on the way to being completely legalized here in Canada.

It is widely used anyway. I'm in Vancouver and there is a "dispensary" on every block almost. A "dispensary" is a store that sells cannabis and cannabis related supplies (e.g. rolling papers, pipes, bongs, vaporizers, etc). At some dispensaries, they require registration and membership, others just require id (to show the purchasers is age 19 or over (as this is the legal age here).

Of course, there are discussions regarding by-laws regarding it's consumption. We already have strict smoking (tobacco) laws (not allowed on beaches, parks, public buildings, within 5 meters of doorways to businesses/services, bus stops, etc).

I do use cannabis. I also use a vaporizer as this greatly reduces the odor and effects on those around me. I respect others enough to know that not everyone enjoys the smell or its effects and chose to enjoy responsibly. I also hate those little, tiny ziplock bags that the dispensaries package their leaf cannabis in. I always bring a re-cycled prescription bottle or little glass jar. I encourage others to do the same for environmental reasons.

It isn't a gateway drug. People who enjoy or take it medicinally are not prone to violence or crime. It's no more dangerous than a glass or two of wine (when used responsibly, just as alcohol is fine if used responsibly).

I have no problem with people choosing to use it or choosing not to use it. It's a personal thing. I just ask that it is used responsibly and respectfully. Just like drinking or smoking tobacco.

As for arguments about spikes in crime and stuff with legalization: I recently checked, Canada is still a pretty safe country (crime wise) and of the little crime we see - cannabis played no part. :)

Oh - and the taxes proposed for cannabis are not concerning to me. Taxes are what pays for a civilized society and I'll take the universal health care, social safety net and infrastructure maintenance that our taxes help pay for. :)



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25 Apr 2018, 6:36 pm

Pepe wrote:
sly279 wrote:
A lot of people who use it don’t want it legal. They’d have to pay taxes then.

In my city weed is taxed 60%
State taxes 20% then county taxes 20% and the city decided to tax it 20%

Atleast that’s how I read it from the ballot measures to raise tax on it with passed
County and city both raised their taxes on it to 20%. So unless county doesn’t tax weed sold in cities that tax it then it has a big tax on weed.
Democrats love to tax


That surprises me...
That buying it illegally is less expensive...<shrug>

Smoking cigarettes puts a lot of stress on government medical funding here, so I can understand the huge taxes on them to recoup some of the losses...
Maybe the same applies to weed?...<shrug>


Well living in Colorado I have found you can find pretty decent prices regardless of the tax, just have to shop around for a good dispensary get on their loyalty program and they'll even offer you deals. I find it is cheaper to go through the dispensaries. Also, though weed tax can be voted on, its not like its set in stone permanently.

Besides I think taxes are better than getting arrested for weed.


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26 Apr 2018, 4:09 pm

I support it's legalization and taxation for citizens 21 and up. The taxes can go towards improving infrastructure and education. I do think that the THC content should be regulated though, like how alcohol content tells you what the percentage is, I want to know the THC percentages.



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26 Apr 2018, 4:26 pm

CanadianRose wrote:
It's no more dangerous than a glass or two of wine (when used responsibly, just as alcohol is fine if used responsibly).


A user once told me that when she is on weed she may get pissed off with someone and may feel a desire to strangle them, but she would do it tomorrow...<chuckle>
The only real danger I see in regards to weed is personal health and poor judgement particularly involving driving...

CanadianRose wrote:
I have no problem with people choosing to use it or choosing not to use it. It's a personal thing. I just ask that it is used responsibly and respectfully. Just like drinking or smoking tobacco.

Agreed...

CanadianRose wrote:
Oh - and the taxes proposed for cannabis are not concerning to me. Taxes are what pays for a civilized society and I'll take the universal health care, social safety net and infrastructure maintenance that our taxes help pay for. :)


I like the way you think...
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Besides I think taxes are better than getting arrested for weed.


Don't quote me but I think most people just get a warning if found with weed for personal use, here in Australia...
If they aren't under the influence and driving, that is...

In Canberra, the capital, I think it has been legal since cave men times...



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26 Apr 2018, 6:27 pm

Pepe wrote:
sly279 wrote:
A lot of people who use it don’t want it legal. They’d have to pay taxes then.

In my city weed is taxed 60%
State taxes 20% then county taxes 20% and the city decided to tax it 20%

Atleast that’s how I read it from the ballot measures to raise tax on it with passed
County and city both raised their taxes on it to 20%. So unless county doesn’t tax weed sold in cities that tax it then it has a big tax on weed.
Democrats love to tax


That surprises me...
That buying it illegally is less expensive...<shrug>

Smoking cigarettes puts a lot of stress on government medical funding here, so I can understand the huge taxes on them to recoup some of the losses...
Maybe the same applies to weed?...<shrug>


Did you know that thats a misconception? Smokers die way younger, while about all of the huge medical costs are made for the people in the very old age brackets.



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26 Apr 2018, 7:20 pm

sly279 wrote:
A lot of people who use it don’t want it legal. They’d have to pay taxes then.

In my city weed is taxed 60%
State taxes 20% then county taxes 20% and the city decided to tax it 20%

Atleast that’s how I read it from the ballot measures to raise tax on it with passed
County and city both raised their taxes on it to 20%. So unless county doesn’t tax weed sold in cities that tax it then it has a big tax on weed.
Democrats love to tax


With a weed tax, Washington state has more revenue for services for its citizens.


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27 Apr 2018, 6:39 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
sly279 wrote:
A lot of people who use it don’t want it legal. They’d have to pay taxes then.

In my city weed is taxed 60%
State taxes 20% then county taxes 20% and the city decided to tax it 20%

Atleast that’s how I read it from the ballot measures to raise tax on it with passed
County and city both raised their taxes on it to 20%. So unless county doesn’t tax weed sold in cities that tax it then it has a big tax on weed.
Democrats love to tax


With a weed tax, Washington state has more revenue for services for its citizens.


Despite the increase tax revenue Oregon is still running negative. Oregon just chose to spend more



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27 Apr 2018, 7:21 pm

cortex88 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
sly279 wrote:
A lot of people who use it don’t want it legal. They’d have to pay taxes then.

In my city weed is taxed 60%
State taxes 20% then county taxes 20% and the city decided to tax it 20%

Atleast that’s how I read it from the ballot measures to raise tax on it with passed
County and city both raised their taxes on it to 20%. So unless county doesn’t tax weed sold in cities that tax it then it has a big tax on weed.
Democrats love to tax


That surprises me...
That buying it illegally is less expensive...<shrug>

Smoking cigarettes puts a lot of stress on government medical funding here, so I can understand the huge taxes on them to recoup some of the losses...
Maybe the same applies to weed?...<shrug>


Did you know that thats a misconception? Smokers die way younger, while about all of the huge medical costs are made for the people in the very old age brackets.


Could you provide a link to that assessment? :wink:



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07 May 2018, 10:48 am

Will the legalization of pot make it cheaper? I hope it does. I could get myself so high that the things that I stand for won't matter to me, any more. Warfare and my German helmets that is. Wouldn't that be a sight for everyone in Langley.

If I were a soft and floppy hippie, everyone would be in love with me. :wink:


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07 May 2018, 10:56 am

The War on Drugs was nothing more than a back-handed scheme to disenfranchise black people.


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