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24 Jun 2018, 6:07 pm

Hi all. I just finished watching this video. It's pretty long and it contains swears, but you can still watch it if you have nothing better to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtm8_KOcj5g

This video has gotten me thinking. I've noticed that "They're pushing LGBT crap on innocent children!" is one of the most common far-right talking points nowadays. It's a very easy way for them to stir up people emotionally because, of course, most people are naturally repulsed by the thought of pornographic content being shown to children. This is good. It's not healthy for children to be exposed to sexual content.

That being said, some people forget that being LGBT is not only about sexual intercourse.

Consider the Following: One of the most common media tropes is the "save the princess" trope. We usually don't think of that trope as being sexual. As such, it appears in movies and video games aimed at young children frequently. Imagine if the knight in shining armor turned out to be a butch lesbian. The far-right would probably consider that to be sexually perverse, even if no sexual intercourse or nudity was depicted on-screen.

That's one of the biggest double standards in our society. Anything with homosexual characters is considered inappropriate for children, even if no actual sexual intercourse is depicted. Meanwhile, depicting heterosexual characters in children's entertainment is permitted as long as no nudity or sexual intercourse is depicted.

This whole thing about trans kids has been blown out of proportion in a similar fashion. Some people are born with a male body, but feminine neurological structure. This is where trans women come from. Allowing young trans girls to transition is not pedophilic, as no sexual intercourse is occurring.

By the way, when I was a young boy, I thought that girls were weird and gross. If a child with male anatomy wants to self-identify as female, this is a definite sign that she is neurologically female. No boy is ever going to self-identify as female just because of some sort of "cultural Marxist fad".

I'm sick of all this right-wing noise about "children being forced to transition" or whatever. It's all a bunch of nothing.


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24 Jun 2018, 6:32 pm

Agree 110% with everything you just said.

I think it comes down to science - the right has a larger amygdaloid which makes them terrified or paranoid of everything they're unfamiliar with.

I'm tired of the right hating and lashing out at "the other," period.

Hopefully one day people can just be themselves without fearing that some extremist right winger is going to try to harass/assault/kill them for it. The levels they go to is very disturbing.

Although different, recently heard a news story about drag queens entertaining kids by reading them children stories. Apparently it triggered the right so much, they were planning on sending a neo-nazi group and the police presence had to be beefed up to protect the children from the antics of the far right.



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24 Jun 2018, 6:49 pm

Spooky_Mulder wrote:
Agree 110% with everything you just said.

I think it comes down to science - the right has a larger amygdaloid which makes them terrified or paranoid of everything they're unfamiliar with.

I'm tired of the right hating and lashing out at "the other," period.

Hopefully one day people can just be themselves without fearing that some extremist right winger is going to try to harass/assault/kill them for it. The levels they go to is very disturbing.

Although different, recently heard a news story about drag queens entertaining kids by reading them children stories. Apparently it triggered the right so much, they were planning on sending a neo-nazi group and the police presence had to be beefed up to protect the children from the antics of the far right.


A drag queen is just a gay guy who likes to dress as a women.

There's nothing inherently sexual about wearing women's clothing.


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24 Jun 2018, 7:30 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:

A drag queen is just a gay guy who likes to dress as a women.

There's nothing inherently sexual about wearing women's clothing.


There are heterosexual people who like "dress up" such as Rudy Giuliani.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBKu9OJ8Ltk

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24 Jun 2018, 7:31 pm

Being informed about biological sex, I'm not bothered about transgenderism.

"Transgenderism" is just the new hill liberal and conservatives want to die on.

Come through, logic and rationality!! !


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24 Jun 2018, 8:10 pm

This site is the site that I use more than any other … but sometimes I go on 4chan's /pol/ board just to troll them. They deserve it, since that site is infested with literal white supremacists.

One line that the /pol/ people often use is "All this LGBT nonsense is Marxist! It came out of Marxism! This is communism!"

In other words, the /pol/ people have never read anything by Karl Marx. Read the Communist Manifesto and search for LGBT related words using Ctrl+F. You won't find any.

Some of the transphobia in our society is religious in origin, but a very large portion of it is also derived from anti-Semitism and conspiracy nuttery. In other words, don't be too sympathetic towards the anti-LGBT crowd.


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24 Jun 2018, 8:17 pm

the right wing fifth column in this country sees the LGBT repression in its benefactor [Russia] and wants that here also, to jam all of us hard back into the closet, and lock the door.



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25 Jun 2018, 2:28 am

DarthMetaKnight wrote:

By the way, when I was a young boy, I thought that girls were weird and gross. If a child with male anatomy wants to self-identify as female, this is a definite sign that she is neurologically female. No boy is ever going to self-identify as female just because of some sort of "cultural Marxist fad".

Should just qualify this by saying that children only seem to develop a stable gender identity around the age of five or six. Before this point, many children have what in adults we would call a fluid gender identity, but I think describing children that way would be imposing our cognitive power onto them.

While you should always respect a child's gender identity, you only need to start thinking about medical intervention and stuff after the age of five or six. An eight-year-old who consistently identifies as another gender could safely be placed on puberty blockers.



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25 Jun 2018, 2:32 am

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Spooky_Mulder wrote:
Agree 110% with everything you just said.

I think it comes down to science - the right has a larger amygdaloid which makes them terrified or paranoid of everything they're unfamiliar with.

I'm tired of the right hating and lashing out at "the other," period.

Hopefully one day people can just be themselves without fearing that some extremist right winger is going to try to harass/assault/kill them for it. The levels they go to is very disturbing.

Although different, recently heard a news story about drag queens entertaining kids by reading them children stories. Apparently it triggered the right so much, they were planning on sending a neo-nazi group and the police presence had to be beefed up to protect the children from the antics of the far right.


A drag queen is just a gay guy who likes to dress as a women.

There's nothing inherently sexual about wearing women's clothing.


I wasn't say there is....

Stated different since a transexual isn't the same as a drag queen.

Plus, as others have stated - straights are drag queens as well.

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Some of the transphobia in our society is religious in origin, but a very large portion of it is also derived from anti-Semitism and conspiracy nuttery. In other words, don't be too sympathetic towards the anti-LGBT crowd.


How is transphobia derived from anti-Semitism? White supremacists and Nazis hate both groups, but I'm unsure how their hatred for trans people is because they hate Jewish people... I may be reading that too literally though... then again, these are the same people who think I like guys because Soros put something in the water...



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25 Jun 2018, 3:26 am

Spooky_Mulder wrote:
How is transphobia derived from anti-Semitism? White supremacists and Nazis hate both groups, but I'm unsure how their hatred for trans people is because they hate Jewish people... I may be reading that too literally though... then again, these are the same people who think I like guys because Soros put something in the water...


Most white nationalists believe that the concept of LGBT rights was invented by Jews in order to reduce the white population. Interestingly, most black supremacists also believe that Jews invented homosexuality to reduce the black population.

People like this don't usually "show their power level" publicly, but a good portion of the homophobes in our world could be closet racists.


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25 Jun 2018, 5:56 am

Its not far right to think children should not be allowed to under go hormone therapy or surgery. Having little boys dress up as drag queens and having them twerk in gay clubs is disgusting and immoral.



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25 Jun 2018, 6:01 am

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Having little boys dress up as drag queens and having them twerk in gay clubs is disgusting and immoral.


Wait. Hold up.

This happened?


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25 Jun 2018, 6:37 am

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
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Having little boys dress up as drag queens and having them twerk in gay clubs is disgusting and immoral.


Wait. Hold up.

This happened?


Yeah there was a boy who was about 9 I think who had a drag act called lactacia.



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25 Jun 2018, 7:17 am

Daniel89 wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
Having little boys dress up as drag queens and having them twerk in gay clubs is disgusting and immoral.


Wait. Hold up.

This happened?


Yeah there was a boy who was about 9 I think who had a drag act called lactacia.



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25 Jun 2018, 8:43 am

I hate people using children for political reasons even when its not vulgar like this.



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25 Jun 2018, 8:53 am

I dressed in boy clothes and had short hair as a girl.

If girls can dress as boys, boys can dress as girls. Keep clutching your pearls over non-issues.


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