According to the Bible, the stars will fall from the sky whe

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Jitro
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16 Jun 2012, 3:51 pm

According to the Bible, the stars will fall from the sky when Jesus returns. Just how is it possible for the stars to fall from the sky? That can't happen, can it?



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16 Jun 2012, 3:54 pm

Perhaps they mean meteors.

Where does the Bible make this claim?



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16 Jun 2012, 4:10 pm

The stars cannot fall from the sky because they are too far away for there to be any gravitational influence and even if they weren't they are more massive than the earth anyway.

At the time Revelations was written, people did not have the conception of the universe that we now have, so perhaps whoever wrote it thought that stars falling from the sky might be possible even though we now know it isn't. In any case, Christianity in it's original context was doomsday cult that thought the world was going to end (and Christ was going to return) pretty soon an 2000 years later we are still waiting for that to happen. So I think it's safe to say that it's not going to happen and I wouldn't worry about it.



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16 Jun 2012, 4:12 pm

The "stars fell on Alabama" according to an old pop song.

But no... actual "stars" can't litereally fall on the Earth .

Though "shooting stars" ( ie meteorite) could.

Among the many problems is that each visible star is many times as massive as the earth, so if even one star were on a collision course with earth- earth would end up falling into it.



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16 Jun 2012, 4:47 pm

Jitro wrote:
According to the Bible, the stars will fall from the sky when Jesus returns. Just how is it possible for the stars to fall from the sky? That can't happen, can it?


Fall? Toward what? In Olden Times it was believed that stars were lights hung up on the walls of night.

Now we know better.

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18 Jun 2012, 4:06 pm

maybe space time will fold up and down wil be up and up wil be down.



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18 Jun 2012, 4:32 pm

thedaywalker wrote:
maybe space time will fold up and down wil be up and up wil be down.


and maybe (more likely) the Bible is filled with nonsense.

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19 Jun 2012, 4:02 pm

Okay when the Bible makes a reference to falling stars, it is likely a reference to meteors...

You do realize that people of that time had no vocabularly concerning meteors. Anyone care to suggest how God is supposed to explain to a people that are at a Bronze Age technological level the concept of Outer Space...

Meteorites used to quite literally be considered fallen stars, so we have to look at the level of understanding of the people at the time.

Quite trying to claim that God doesn't exist because he didn't explain to people running around with spears, how to build a Saturn V rocket. It would have been completely pointless because they wouldn't have understood a word of it.



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19 Jun 2012, 4:17 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Okay when the Bible makes a reference to falling stars, it is likely a reference to meteors...

You do realize that people of that time had no vocabularly concerning meteors. Anyone care to suggest how God is supposed to explain to a people that are at a Bronze Age technological level the concept of Outer Space...

Meteorites used to quite literally be considered fallen stars, so we have to look at the level of understanding of the people at the time.

Quite trying to claim that God doesn't exist because he didn't explain to people running around with spears, how to build a Saturn V rocket. It would have been completely pointless because they wouldn't have understood a word of it.


You're funny!



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19 Jun 2012, 4:32 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Okay when the Bible makes a reference to falling stars, it is likely a reference to meteors...

You do realize that people of that time had no vocabularly concerning meteors. Anyone care to suggest how God is supposed to explain to a people that are at a Bronze Age technological level the concept of Outer Space...

Meteorites used to quite literally be considered fallen stars, so we have to look at the level of understanding of the people at the time.

Quite trying to claim that God doesn't exist because he didn't explain to people running around with spears, how to build a Saturn V rocket. It would have been completely pointless because they wouldn't have understood a word of it.


You're funny!


I fail to see what is so humorous about pointing out something that is so blatently obvious that it is surprising a lot of people didn't realize this.

In order to explain things, one needs a common frame of reference, considering they didn't even have telescopes at the time, and most telescopes couldn't see asteroids or meteors anyways, the people of that era would have no frame of reference.

Closest thing to what they would be able to understand, is to associate meteorites as fallen stars.

What is noted in the Bible that people think disproves God, simply because it is explaining things in a manner that we know isn't accurate from a scientific standpoint, doesn't disprove God at all. All it demonstrates is that the Bible was written in a manner so that people from that time period would be able to understand it on a conceptual basis.

If you lived in a cave your whole life and never saw a tree, would you have a clue what someone meant when they said they saw a Pine Tree. You wouldn't because you would have no frame of reference.



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19 Jun 2012, 4:40 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Okay when the Bible makes a reference to falling stars, it is likely a reference to meteors...

You do realize that people of that time had no vocabularly concerning meteors. Anyone care to suggest how God is supposed to explain to a people that are at a Bronze Age technological level the concept of Outer Space...

Meteorites used to quite literally be considered fallen stars, so we have to look at the level of understanding of the people at the time.

Quite trying to claim that God doesn't exist because he didn't explain to people running around with spears, how to build a Saturn V rocket. It would have been completely pointless because they wouldn't have understood a word of it.


You're funny!


I fail to see what is so humorous about pointing out something that is so blatently obvious that it is surprising a lot of people didn't realize this.

In order to explain things, one needs a common frame of reference, considering they didn't even have telescopes at the time, and most telescopes couldn't see asteroids or meteors anyways, the people of that era would have no frame of reference.

Closest thing to what they would be able to understand, is to associate meteorites as fallen stars.

What is noted in the Bible that people think disproves God, simply because it is explaining things in a manner that we know isn't accurate from a scientific standpoint, doesn't disprove God at all. All it demonstrates is that the Bible was written in a manner so that people from that time period would be able to understand it on a conceptual basis.

If you lived in a cave your whole life and never saw a tree, would you have a clue what someone meant when they said they saw a Pine Tree. You wouldn't because you would have no frame of reference.

:lmao:



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19 Jun 2012, 4:54 pm

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According to the Bible, the stars will fall from the sky when Jesus returns. Just how is it possible for the stars to fall from the sky? That can't happen, can it?


Yah, there's some pretty foolish things in there.



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19 Jun 2012, 5:09 pm

Some have interpreted this to mean the reentry of ICBMs in though the atmosphere.

ICBMs are Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles, they usually carry nuclear warheads.



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19 Jun 2012, 5:18 pm

shrox wrote:
Some have interpreted this to mean the reentry of ICBMs in though the atmosphere.

ICBMs are Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles, they usually carry nuclear warheads.


That is also a distinct possibility if you think about it. Remember the Bible was written back when people would have absoluting no concept of what a rocket or missile was, let alone a Nuke.



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19 Jun 2012, 5:23 pm

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19 Jun 2012, 5:27 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Okay when the Bible makes a reference to falling stars, it is likely a reference to meteors...

You do realize that people of that time had no vocabularly concerning meteors. Anyone care to suggest how God is supposed to explain to a people that are at a Bronze Age technological level the concept of Outer Space...

Meteorites used to quite literally be considered fallen stars, so we have to look at the level of understanding of the people at the time.

Quite trying to claim that God doesn't exist because he didn't explain to people running around with spears, how to build a Saturn V rocket. It would have been completely pointless because they wouldn't have understood a word of it.


Then he coulda just said "rocks will fall from the sky" if he meant meteors, and not distant suns. It wouldnt have taken a dissertation!