Do minorities actually care about "cultural appropriation"?

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Hi all. Today, I want to talk about "cultural appropriation". A lot of leftists nowadays seem to think that it is wrong for white people to use Afro-American English.

An Example of This Leftist Insanity
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http://affinitymagazine.us/2016/05/22/aave-is-for-black-people-and-black-people-only/

Here's the thing: I went to a very multi-racial high school. The whole school was about 40% white. There were a lot of black kids, Asian kids, and Middle Eastern kids in the school. I never even learned about the concept of "cultural appropriation" until after I was out of high school.

It seems to me that most minorities don't even care about cultural appropriation. In my old school, there were plenty of white kids who used Afro-American English. None of the black kids in the school were offended. In fact, the white kids who used "black English" seemed to have more black friends than me. The black kids in the school seemed to regard cultural appropriation as a compliment.

There were also a lot of weeaboos in my old school and the Asian kids seemed flattered by that.

It seems to me that the SJWs don't really represent the minorities that they claim to speak for. They're just trying to control people and feel superior to others.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_WinXlct9s

Up to a point. Like there’s certain words you shouldn’t say if you’re not black, if you catch my drift.

If a white person is trying to mimic a caricature of a black or mexican voice, yeah that’d be offensive as hell depending on the person. Some do this to mock, so it depends on the situation.

I don’t know if it all comes down to race either. For example the thug gangster type lingo that people stereotypically place on black people - in reality many black people don’t talk like that. It’s more representative of one’s class, it’s street talk. That’s why I always viewed Eminem as just being who he is due to his class surroundings rather than trying to be someone he’s not. It’s kinda like the myth that there’s a “gay voice” or “gay vernacular” - when as a bi guy, there’s many straight guys who fit the stereotype whereas I don’t at all. I actually find it weird that people think there is a “gay voice/vernacular” and think (though could be wrong) that black would similarly think it’s weird that people think there is a “black voice/vernacular” (other than only lgbtq should say the f word and only black people should say the n word).

But - take Black Panther for example- I doubt many black people would be angry about a white kid wanting to dress up as Black Panther, in fact (although I’m not black) in my eyes that shows progress.

Never understood the concept of "cultural appropriation" as something bad.

The more powerful group forces the less powerful group to conform to the language and ways of the powerful group. In short: to assimilate to the powerful group's culture. Not the other way around. Assimilation is what the less powerful group faces. Not the "danger" that the powerful group will pay you a compliment by imitating you. The Romans forced their subjects to learn Latin, the Spanish conquistadors spread Spanish, and they did not adopt American Indian languages. The modern Kurds worry about assimilating to Turkish language and culture, and not about the Turks adopting the Kurdish language or culture. If a majority group adopts cultural artifacts of a minority group its a symbol of acceptance of the minority group. Not a symptom of oppression of the minority group.

The zipper was invented in Sweden, so you lot better unzip and stop appropriating my culture.

To a point.

If you were a lass...

I was thinking more along the lines of...

I believe "cultural appropriation" is only bad when it's done in a blatantly disrespectful, or totally pig-ignorant, way.

Other than that, I live in the U.S. and we're supposed to be the great "melting pot" nation. Besides, I've always wondered if it's "cultural appropriation" when black people straighten their hair and dye it blonde.

Or to attack.

Food For Thought: During the 1960s, the hippies copied a lot from East Asian culture and Indian culture, even though the hippies know very little about either. Was that cultural appropriation?

To be honest, the hippies don't really know much about anything. They were leftists, but they justified their leftism using mushy "love" bullsh** instead of using reason. Today, the aging hippies continue to push fad diets, "crystal healing" and spiritual mumbo-jumbo.

The entire hippie movement was a mistake. It was a mistake that the left needs to recover from.

^^ This.

A rant follows...

I find the whole idea absolutely ludicrous. By the logic of these purists,

Gershwin should have been banned from writing "Porgy and Bess", and it should NEVER be performed.

Pinchas Zuckerman, Gil Shaham, and Yitzhak Perlman should be forced to play nothing but klezmer music. They should be prohibited from ever playing Tchaikovsky, Mozart, Elgar, or any other non-Jewish composer. (P.S. I happen to have a CD of Perlman playing klezmer and it's great, but can you imagine losing 98% of his discography otherwise? Or Shaham's absolutely overwhelming gorgeous Scheherezade? LUDICROUS. Stupid beyond belief.)

While we're on the subject, Rimsky-Korsakoff should not have been allowed to write Scheherezade. He was Russian. How dare he write about an Arabic folktale! And Dvorak? Writing the New World Symphony? Sacrilege! Burn all the sheet music!

And Oleta Adams and Al Jarreau should never have been allowed to make their wonderful recording of "The Waters of March" by Jobim, because Jobim was from Brazil and they're not. Weren't... we lost Mr. Jarreau last year, dammit, but at least he didn't live to be subjected to this nonsense.

Also, all women should be prohibited from wearing trousers. That's an appropriation of masculine culture, after all. And wave bye-bye to the DC Drag Race, or whatever they've renamed that wonderful whimsical delight. Also, anyone with piercings or plugs had better be from the exact cultures that originated them, and wear them exactly as they originated. Or else.

Only descendants of Benjamin Franklin are permitted to use electricity. Only Mexicans can eat in Mexican restaurants. Sorry, folks from Guatemala and Honduras, Brazil and Peru. Sorry, everybody else too.

Nobody who isn't Japanese is allowed to watch or enjoy anime. Only Brits are allowed to read Pratchett. Only Scots may listen to the war pipes, or learn to play them.

I mean, the permutations of this idiocy are endless... and what is it really about? It's about being an obnoxious PITA, to get a rush of phony superiority, as a displacement activity from doing something usefully pro-social.

Feh. Now, give me a few minutes to catch my metaphorical breath, and I'll let you know how I REALLY feel.

... end rant...

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I can’t answer for all minorities but this Autustic has no problem with NT’s singing about Autistics or playing an autistic part as long as it is done respectfully within context.

Same goes the other way. I won’t give an Autistic actor a pass for harmful portrayls.

WASP Americans (White folks of northwest European Anglosaxon/Germanic descent) should return to worshipping the Pagan Gods of Valhalla because worshipping the God of ancient Judea, and/or worship of that God's carpenter son is "cultural appropriation".

WASP Americans should also stop using Hindu-Arabic numbers because that's "cultural appropriaton" from India (by way of the Arabs), and we all should go back to using Roman numerals like we did in the Middle Ages.

Actually, we cant use Roman Numerals either because...theyre Roman. Only the Wops can use them. We WASP White bread Americans will have go back to counting on our fingers.

WASP Americans should give up the Roman alphabet.

WASP Americans should be forbidden to use algebra because it's cultural appropriation from the Muslim Arabs.

And...White Americans of European descent have to give up, tobacco, chocolate, eating turkey, eating corn, eating anything made with corn syrup in it (basically everything on the shelves of Giant and Safeway),squash, Lima beans, canoeing, kayaking, potatoes, and tomatoes, because all of that was invented by the First Nation Americans (American Indians).

Ban Moses for the offense of that goyim Charlton Heston playing an iconic person of Jewishness. The fact that it was a great film with great performances, a product of its time is irrelevent to its offensive triggering reminder that in that Actors of Jewishness had to emalsulate thier culture by Americanizing their names in order to get roles then.

As I said in my previous post on this forum, there is appropriation and misappropriation. I don't care if my culture is appropriated but I might care if I thought it was being misappropriated in an exploitative or disrespectful manner.

It would really depend on what it was and the context.

Language diffuses naturally so I don't feel it's reasonable to be upset when others adopt certain linguistical elements from other cultures.

Chronos, I agree that that distinction should exist. Unfortunately, as far as I can see, no one who complains about cultural appropriation as though it's a huge, offensive problem seems to make it. A white peson having dreadlocks, tattooing themselves with the chinese sign for "cattle" (and claiming it means "sacrifice") and listening to jazz music are all perfectly reasonable causes for violence,in their eyes.