Why would Hillary have been not as scary for America?

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In 2016 and looking back today, people have said they believe Hillary would not be as scary or horrible for America than Trump. Sure, Trump is no saint all the time either but I would have been much more concerned if Hillary did win the election. At least I see Trump actually shaking up and changing things mostly for the better of our country.

Why do people even believe that Hillary was the "less scary" of either?

Most of what Trump has "done" so far has been very little, such as claiming a drop in unemployment (which was dropping already during the Obama administration) and issuing tariffs (which I think most people agree will make for a pretty poor American economy in spite of what a handful may claim).

I don't know what HRC may have been like in office. Probably not a lot different. That being said, we'd at least see a continuation of socialist or pseudosocialist policy rather than capitalist and protectionist principles, not to mention the damage that could be done to the environment right now. Climate change denial is probably the single most harmful belief in politics right now.

I'm guessing you're a white/straight/non-immigrant/Christian(or atheist) - tell me I'm wrong.

Hmm, lets see since Trump has been in office he's continually demonized and villified minorities and ever since he's started running there's been an increase in the number of hate crimes against minorities.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/05/18/how-trump%E2%80%99s-nativist-tweets-overlap-anti-muslim-and-anti-latino-hate-crimes

https://www.naacp.org/latest/naacp-sees-continued-rise-hate-crimes-legacy-trumps-racism/

Not to mention all of the actions he and his league of vile Confederates took against me as an lgbtq person.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/19/trump-lgbt-rights-discrimination-353774
(due to date of article, far from a complete list)

Yeah, what a winner (sarcasm). As a hispanic/bisexual/immigrant I'm definitely happy with orange hitler - not.

The only person that the orange ogre might even be remotely "good" for is NON white/straight/cis/Christians - for everyone else agent orange has been a stain on this country and he helped to usher in a nightmare of AmeriKKKana that has been terrorizing minorities ever since.

Trump is actually a horrible, selfish, sexist, narcissistic, racist, ignorant, petulant idiot. Hillary is only portrayed so by the GOP. She's actually a normal center right Democrat.

The problem is that the media is corrupt in wealthy elites pocket and use it to say and do anything to oppose or destroy him, and sometimes those who support him.

Protectionist principles are more associated with socialism and not capitalism, but I know that Trump's policies are protectionist, I could also include his stance on immigration under that term umbrella.

The legitimate news media cannot deliberately lie about Trump, it would hit their bottom line. I believe they are mostly accurate.

But, Hillary and Trump are both horrible, selfish people.
Oh, wait a minute...

I don't agree.

Trump supporters will say everything they don't like is a hoax or fake news, man. It's not worth it with his supporters. Even when Fox News puts something negative out about Trump (it's rare, but it does happen) his supporters call them "fake news" as well. Basically the definition of "fake news" isn't center or left news, it's anything negative about their orange chosen one.

Why should those who hate or dislike Trump have the only moral high ground?
Both sides have done bad stuff before, but we have to be so divided and uncivil in arguments today.

Those who are never-Trump seem to act like they want people to not hate or be tolerant, but they are just doing the same thing they are preaching the opposite against toward the other side.

Politics is so horrible today.

News isn't a moral high ground. There's either facts or there's lies. There's no such thing as an alternative fact.

This is why it speaks volumes that Trump's supporters even call Fox News "fake" when they say anything negative about him. It shows how narrow their echo chamber is when they can't even stand Fox at times calling Trump out.

The only news that Trump supporters haven't called fake is when it's positive, that's scary. Not all Trump supporters are like this, but there's way too many that do this for that to be anything but unsettling.

Also, yes - as a hispanic/bisexual/immigrant - I HATE Trump with a passion and I won't ever apologized for doing so. I hit one of the triads for the groups that he singles out. When encountered with a rabid animal that attacks, I see it as a rabid animal that attacks. To me Trump is nothing but a menace and disgrace. And his supporters only have him to thank for turning me away from MLK and onto thinking that Malcolm X was right all along.

Trump is certainly welcome to point out the moral flaws in the opposition.

I think you have to admit, Trump has taken disgracing the office of the presidency to new levels. How is something like making children into orphans less important than avoiding the use of curse words? Maybe something like this is worth a little protest, which isn't convenient, and is often impolite.

Hating someone for doing a bad thing is not the same as hating someone for the color of their skin or country of origin. There are legitimate forms of hate.


yup

I'm really fine that those who support Trump belonging to echo-chambers as much as those who oppose him also can.

And do you believe that the "news" generally should be trusted for honesty?
They are just interested in money and being richer and more "special" than thou.

The news is no doubt corporate ran and it has an agenda of meeting the bottom dollar.

In an alternate reality where more people loved Trump than despise him, his portrayal would be the other way around to meet consumer demand. The problem with the news isn't it being "fake" - it's with it being driven for profit.

Is the news "fake"? That's dangerously stretching it because the fourth estate is essential to democracy. Attacking it is one of the most dangerous actions that Trump is taking and among the non-biased, this is a bipartisan agreement. Even Republican George W. Bush who was repeatedly attacked has stated as much as well.

I was in support of her during the election, but then I heard that she was wrapped up in a scandal where she and her husband were revealed to be planning to sell the US to a cartel corporation. I knew something had to be up, mind you, as the first woman to run for President should have an open net, let alone anyone running against an uncharisthmatic orange buffoon. That Hillary lost anyways says a lot as there's no way Donald should have gotten very many votes at all under normal circumstances, let alone the President's chair.

Now I'm in support of neither, and just wish the Oompa Loompa would get rolled away and stop talking. I'd love it if Oompa Loompas from the original Willy Wonka film rolled him away with a song. Actually, I'd be laughing so hard I'd have difficulty breathing. On a side note, I do hope the US gets a female president at some point, but I'm glad Hillary didn't get the prestige of being the first, even if she made history just by running.

...and you believed it because ...it was on the internet?