my thoughts on immigration what about yours?

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I can see the reason why people are upset about illegal immigration and I am not justifiy the racist side of it but the legit concerns.Here is my thoughts about is several points
1.Crime is that when you see people on the news getting arrested a majority are from or descend from that spefic region of the world we dont want another countrys crooks or gangster and drug lords
2.Govermend asistence-People worry that these people that here illegals getting,welfare,foodstamps or WIC payed for by hard working legal taxpayers
3.Lose of jobs-The dying job sector of manufacturing is losing jobs when the illegal are willing to doing the same job for less money.
4.Language barrier-This I firmly understand its a rising trend for everything to be in spanish and its cropping every where and is a major problem in a lot of areas because they need to understand that they are in the US now and should learn basic english just for a simple understanding it doesn;t need to grammaicaly correct or articulate just what words mean.I think they should organize an effort to combat those who even among their own culture wish to shine them in a negitive light to a positive light.I find then other people would be more accepting because I harbor no hate for a good person seeking a better life for themselves or their family that is a honest and good goal for anyone,especially if that better life is not at the expense of others.In this day and age many groups of immigrants where treated in a similar fashion but are not loved and respected parts of american culture which I would love to see happen again like the story of itailian americans,irish american,french canadian and many others.Which my ancenstors were french canadian immigrants.I think people need to understand that basic human want for a better life.

Sorry for double posting but I needed to continue and didn't want that one post getting to long.I can also see as a very animalistic response to new people coming into ones terrirotory until we realize we both want the same thing and should cooperate for that one the we all want a good life for one and their family.

I think immigration is a great thing, the only thing that's really needed is better integration and that's both on the part of the immigrants and on the government admitting them to the country. The immigrants need to realize that they're coming to the US to become US citizens...."Americans", so to speak. They're not coming here to ship money back to their homeland and remain true to those countries.

1. Crime - We don't want the world's criminals. Carter and the marial boatlift where Castro dumped all his criminals on the USA was a catastrophe for America and the State of Florida who now had to take on the duty of incarcerating all of the criminals exported from Cuba.

2. Government Services - These exist to help those in need. That they are exploited is bad enough, but immigrants have no business drawing on them from the day they arrive. This is why being able to go to work and support yourself (or be wealthy enough to not need public assistance) is a requirement for legal immigration.

3. Job Market - To preserve low unemployment numbers and a livable average wage, you can not flood the market with cheap and desperate labor. Immigration is supposed to restrict the flow of immigrants accordingly.

4. Language - It is the DUTY of any immigrant to assimilate into the local culture. A Mexican or other Hispanic has no right expecting others to accommodate him by speaking his native tongue. You honor the country you wish to call home by learning the local language. I find it amazing that most anywhere in the world, an educated person is expected to have a functional command of the English language, but only in America can you be called racist for expecting someone who wants to live here to learn English and speak it in public transactions.

Illegal aliens take up jobs, cause the value of labor to fall, create crime, take up social services, fill up public schools with their anchor babies, who then take up jobs and space in college classrooms but they can't cut it in college so they drop out, thus taking opportunities away from people who belong here. All illegal aliens should be tracked down and deported. Family ties be damned. And we should use military force to guard our border as well.

Many of the illegals do dirty or dangerous jobs that others will not take or seek.

ruveyn

Illegal aliens aren't worth the cheap labor with all the problems they cause.

Are immigrants even in the wealthy United States not welcome?

Immigrants are always welcome in the US. They follow the proper channels to obtain that status. It is the illegal immigrants that are the problem.




Yes, they do some of the difficult or dirty work around here - but if those jobs paid a living wage they would be easily filled. The people who offer those jobs don't want to pay what the worker should get. If there were no illegals to fill them then the employer would be forced to improve wage and working conditions.

I dislike the fact that illegals, et el, who remain loyal to their country of origin (coming illegally to send money to that country, demonstrate with 'their' flag, whine, take services, jobs, schooling and medical attention away from citizens, and refuse to learn English) garner a fair amount of disrespect.

When my grandparents immigrated the did it legally, worked as dishwashers and in shoe factories, and learn to speak, read and write English. This does not mean you need to give up your culture and heritage. My family still speaks Greek, is still Orthodox, and continues the Greek food and Traditions.

i think we in australia are in danger of being swamped by asians.

there are so many indians and chinese and other asian people coming in to the country that i am starting to feel like i am visiting overseas when i go to regional centers.

i went to chatswood recently and there were asians everywhere. it looked like i was in shanghai, and i felt crowded in by them. they have a personal space boundary of a few centimeters it seems whereas mine is about 2 meters. they also have patience to wait and dawdle which i do not have, and i am obstructed by them and i am annoyed at how they all are crowding about.

i do not like it that the shops in chatswood are mainly asian shops with asian writing on their windows, and the owners do not bother to learn english because there are so many asians about that undestand their native tongues who are their main customers..

also, the middle eastern people do not mix in well and they like to have their suburbs to themselves. there are "no go" areas in sydney where middle eastern youths all maraud around looking for violent trouble.

the smell of their middle eastern casseroles that i smell if i have to drive through that group of suburbs is not at all savoury.

they may be good people but they like different things.

my thoughts about the world are very primitive and i suppose not correct but they are my thoughts, and until someone shows me why i am wrong i will retain them.

i do not like what they like and they do not like what i like and they protest to have it the way they want it and i dislike it.
they should just discard all their preconceptions about how to live life but they can not.

ahhh well.
homogenization is an inevitability.

people need to shut up:

if a foreigner does the same job, for less money, what does that make him?

better than you, thats what.

sell your tv, sell your luxuries, live for less money, and go get your job back.

Sure, if you want to be a slave.

For some reason this comes to mind:

sure. the mexican is doing it. so are the polish here. its my point exactly.
these guys take peoples job away cus they ARE willing to slave around.

it makes perfect perfect sense.
we're just being crybabies, we want the job, the money, the luxuries, the vacations, we want it all.
the foreigner takes the job, and leaves us whimpering "its not faiiiiirrrrr!"

No one is using physical force to make anyone work. Furthermore workers are not owned, hence they are not slaves.

ruveyn

That's easy to say.

What if a guy has a mortgage and a family to provide for, and then suddenly finds himself having to compete with foreign workers living ten to a household because his own government cares more about the "free market" than about its own citizens?

Why are the profits of big businesses more imortant to you than the right of a person to a half-decent standard of living in the land of his forefathers?

And if "immigrants" are all so wonderfully hard-working, why are their own countries so bad that they want to leave?