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MisterCosgrove
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07 Feb 2013, 6:34 pm

So I define nation in this case as a common identity (also as a sovereign state, could be either) which aspies and others on the spectrum share. I don't know about this either way, but what do you see an all-ASD culture as being like? Who'd be the dominant sub-category of ASD people? Also, considering those with ASD, at least AS are by large racially homogenous?

Would we be a sedentary culture? If so, will there still be a market in the economy for sports and fitness?


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07 Feb 2013, 7:16 pm

i see there being sports, but perhaps with less of a competitive emphasis. I have heard that autistics are well suited to martial arts for example.

I think a more interesting question is what would its military be like. Would an autistic army be suitable for the battlefield or would our knack for technology enable us to build robots?


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07 Feb 2013, 7:24 pm

I don know about the battlefield. I see an ASD culture as where people don't go out of the house except for recreation activities and do everything and every transaction online. What do you think?

And what sports would be popular, if any?

Can it be a market-oriented economy, please? :)


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07 Feb 2013, 7:50 pm

Hmm... good question.
I suppose their would be a lot of emphasis on being yourself, and a rather varied culture, for one. And I suppose the education system would be adapted to make sure each student was going at their own, proper pace. A fashion industry would probably be close to non-existent, because people on the spectrum often choose clothes for practicality, rather than how the clothes look. A nation composed entirely of people with ASD probably wouldn't have good relations with many other nations, since other nations aren't ASD dominated. But then again, this is all speculation, and I have no idea what really would happen.



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07 Feb 2013, 8:03 pm

Well, at the present time at least, practically all land is out there that isn't claimed by some government.


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07 Feb 2013, 8:16 pm

MisterCosgrove wrote:

Can it be a market-oriented economy, please? :)


A lot of ASD people wouldn't survive in that economy because they can't work.



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07 Feb 2013, 8:49 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
MisterCosgrove wrote:

Can it be a market-oriented economy, please? :)


A lot of ASD people wouldn't survive in that economy because they can't work.

Now how can we expect to unite together with an over-exaggeration such as that?
I'd personally want a choice to opt out of government assistance.


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07 Feb 2013, 8:51 pm

MisterCosgrove wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
MisterCosgrove wrote:

Can it be a market-oriented economy, please? :)


A lot of ASD people wouldn't survive in that economy because they can't work.

Now how can we expect to unite together with an over-exaggeration such as that?
I'd personally want a choice to opt out of government assistance.


It's not an exaggeration. There are high-functioning and low functioning people with ASDs.

I would grant you that many people who can't work now, would be able to work in a society that better suited them, but I can't see that not requiring some government assistance.



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07 Feb 2013, 9:04 pm

Thank you for correcting my mistake. I thought for a second you were labeling me as "Uncle Tom" or a sellout... :o


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07 Feb 2013, 9:08 pm

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Thank you for correcting my mistake. I thought for a second you were labeling me as "Uncle Tom" or a sellout... :o


?

I don't understand. I was simply disagreeing that a market-oriented economy would be the best for all people with ASDs.



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08 Feb 2013, 6:42 am

I disagree that there wouldn't be a fashion industry. What would probably happen, though, is that it would consist of fashionistas selling to each other whilst the rest of the country ignores them...

Not every Aspie has computers, cars, and Thomas the Tank engine as their special interest...

I doubt there'd be anywhere near the current amount of people changing career streams, because they'll pick a career based on their special interest, which would have to change for them to want to change career. Whilst that does happen, I don't think it's that common...?



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08 Feb 2013, 7:26 am

I agree with Magneto about the fashion industry. Also, I think that there would be sports, but mostly ones that at least could be played by individuals instead of teams, and not the same kind of mass marketed spectator sports. I expect Aspies would be less interested than NTs in watching other people play a game they never or rarely played themselves.

Careers would probably still end up being replaced by computers at a similar speed, and not everyone would have just one special interest that a career could be based around.

Also, maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like women with ASDs often have different stereotypical special interests. Based on that, I think career choices would be influenced even more by gender.

I fear that NTs would probably end up being shunned for acting too emotional, or wouldn't get as many chances to socialize as they would like, which kinda makes me sad.



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08 Feb 2013, 10:07 am

Magneto wrote:
I disagree that there wouldn't be a fashion industry. What would probably happen, though, is that it would consist of fashionistas selling to each other whilst the rest of the country ignores them...

Not every Aspie has computers, cars, and Thomas the Tank engine as their special interest...

I doubt there'd be anywhere near the current amount of people changing career streams, because they'll pick a career based on their special interest, which would have to change for them to want to change career. Whilst that does happen, I don't think it's that common...?


You have a fair point.



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08 Feb 2013, 10:27 am

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It's not an exaggeration. There are high-functioning and low functioning people with ASDs.

I would grant you that many people who can't work now, would be able to work in a society that better suited them, but I can't see that not requiring some government assistance.


I could easily see the disability rate being very high in an autistic-only country.



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08 Feb 2013, 10:29 am

Cei wrote:
I agree with Magneto about the fashion industry. Also, I think that there would be sports, but mostly ones that at least could be played by individuals instead of teams, and not the same kind of mass marketed spectator sports. I expect Aspies would be less interested than NTs in watching other people play a game they never or rarely played themselves.

Careers would probably still end up being replaced by computers at a similar speed, and not everyone would have just one special interest that a career could be based around.

Also, maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like women with ASDs often have different stereotypical special interests. Based on that, I think career choices would be influenced even more by gender.

I fear that NTs would probably end up being shunned for acting too emotional, or wouldn't get as many chances to socialize as they would like, which kinda makes me sad.


Oh yeah, and how would you differentiate between people who are Asperger's and who are not? What if you 'aren't autistic enough' to make the grade? What happens to autistic people who have far, far more non-autistic children than there are autistic kids? I can easily see an autistic-majority country becoming an NT-majority one in no time. And then it'll be just like everywhere else.



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08 Feb 2013, 2:51 pm

Tequila wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
It's not an exaggeration. There are high-functioning and low functioning people with ASDs.

I would grant you that many people who can't work now, would be able to work in a society that better suited them, but I can't see that not requiring some government assistance.


I could easily see the disability rate being very high in an autistic-only country.


Thats pretty much a tautology ( im poking fun at the question-not your answer to it).

Like saying "in a nation of bachelors there would be a high proportion of single men."

If you create a nation out of people with a disability - its a safe bet that that country would have alot of disabled people.