Internal secession movements are growing in several states

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As leftist-dominated cities overwhelm state governments and start the slide into poverty and petty dictatorship, internal secession movement are growing — not secession from the federal union, but secession into separate states.


Secession fever spikes in five states as conservatives seek to escape blue rule

You’ve got Oregonians seeking to cascade into Idaho, Virginians who identify as West Virginians, Illinoians fighting to escape Chicago, Californians dreaming of starting a 51st state, and New Yorkers who think three states are better than one.

Separation fever is sweeping the nation as quixotic but tenacious bands of frustrated rural dwellers, suburbanites and conservatives seek to break free from states with legislatures increasingly controlled by liberal big cities and metropolitan strongholds.

“Oregon is controlled by the northwest portion of the state, Portland to Eugene. That’s urban land, and their decisions are not really representing rural Oregon,” said Mike McCarter, president of Move Oregon’s Border for a Greater Idaho. “They have their agenda and they’re moving forward with it, and they’re not listening to us.”

In Virginia, the newly elected Democratic majority’s progressive legislation on issues such as gun rights has spurred “Vexit,” or “Virginia exit,” a campaign to merge right-tilting rural counties into neighboring West Virginia that organizers say has the potential to catch fire nationwide.

“To be honest, if this works — you’ve got a lot of red areas in this country that are totally dominated by a blue metropolis,” said Vexit2020 leader Rick Boyer, a former member of the Campbell County Board of Supervisors. “If it works in Virginia, there’s no reason it can’t reshape the political map.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... -escape-b/

Meh,

Old news.

These movements have been “growing” since 1776.

The concept of some of Oregon and Northern. California becoming a new state named " Jefferson " has been discussed as far back as the build up to Pearl Harbor period! Some amount of these proposals would set up another state with su h a low population that it would have, like Wyoming, another 1-House member state! This would help Republicans, who tend to be against statehood for Washington. D.C., which some Democrats are for (and vice versa). States do change - the South wss once " The Solid South " for Democrat a and upper New England was " rock ribbed Republican " California and New York had Republican governors in the 2010s - do Republicans there want to take there ball and go home because they're not getting want they want ? Is it the fault of people other than Republicans that those Republican parties didn't put forth candidates that people want to vote for? Don't they believe in the magic of the marketplace ?

Bye!

Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!

What these people are proposing is to effectively gerrymander the entire country so that the minority white rural demographic gains a stranglehold on the federal government, which could lead to actual political violence in majority but geographically concentrated urban areas of a sort that has been common in most of the world but almost unheard of in the US.

There has been talk of Western Mass splitting from Massachusetts for 50 years but nothing ever came of it.

The small ski town of Killington,VT became part of New Hampshire for a couple weeks for tax reasons but Vermont ultimately got Killington back.

Virginia will be dropping celebrating Lee-Jackson day as a holiday, trading it for treating Election Day as a holiday. Perhaps some people who dislike this will want to join West Virginia for this - which would be exactly reversing what happened 160/-ish years ago!

So basically the OP's story is another non-news non-event.

Across the country, rural communities want to secede from their states. Here's why.
Americans outside of urban centers feel as though they have no voice. They want to reclaim their agency.

The United States has a bad case of “secession fever,” and the only cure is splitting up states.

As a recent article in the Washington Times notes, residents of more rural parts of many states want to secede, because those states are dominated by the residents of large urban centers, who know little and care less about the lives of people out in the country. “You’ve got Oregonians seeking to cascade into Idaho, Virginians who identify as West Virginians, Illinoians fighting to escape Chicago, Californians dreaming of starting a 51st state, and New Yorkers who think three states are better than one.”

And this leaves out eastern Washington, which, like eastern Oregon, has been talking about breaking off from the liberal-dominated coastal regions. For that matter, California has produced multiple secession plans aimed at breaking the Golden State up into two, or as many as six, separate states.

This phenomenon isn’t new — I wrote an article about it for the Notre Dame Law Review over a year ago — but it seems to be gathering steam. The reason it’s gathering steam is the same reason why most secession movements, including the American break with Great Britain in 1776, gain steam: the belief that the people who want to leave are being treated badly and callously by rulers over whom they have little or no influence. It’s not just “taxation without representation,” but also, “regulation without representation.” And a general sense of being held in contempt.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 851817002/

I would just be content with a new Texas constitution.

Nobody's going to secede from anywhere.....

There was talk of Staten Island splitting from New York City, too.

Given the geography that would actually make some sense. But they'd still be part of NY or they could join NJ (look at a map).

I'd be curious how many life-long NYC residents have never set foot in Staten Island.

Isn’t the Statue of Liberty actually in New Jersey?

I am a liberal Canadian believing in fairness, equality and inclusion. At the same time respecting values and traditions of others. The enemy is rigidity of thought. I'll never understand how people can sustain the feeling of hate. And I know from experience that even though some individuals are bad, people as a whole are not. Even the ones who are different from you, no matter what the fear mongers say. Less us and them attitude. And lots of city folk love rural life, if only there was more work.

FYI I lead a very traditional life and believe in capitalism (although some portfolios are too big and it will keep getting worse with fewer players on top). I just don't think people should have to deal with negativity about who they are. I assume every person here on WP can say life is better when you can just be yourself.

I do get how hard it is to feel heard now though - so much that goes on is beyond our control. Secession won't change that!

Sorry I write so formal. In person I'm totally informal. Don't mean to sound preachy.

If you look at where the state line runs between NY and NJ you can see that the Statue of Liberty is on the NJ side. If you're in lower Manhattan, you can see skyscrapers in Jersey City, they actually appear quite close. At first glance, Jersey City appears to be equivalent to Baltimore or Providence in terms of size, but I think it actually functions as "overflow" from Manhattan but perhaps relatively few people live there, it's like a downtown without outlying districts.

It would seem logical for the state line to divide Staten island from Brooklyn, but for historical reasons it doesn't. OTOH NJ has always had a negative image as being corrupt, so I don't know how many Staten Islanders would actually want to be part of NJ. I don't know how much travel occurred between SI and Brooklyn before the Verazzano Bridge was built but I would assume there were ferries.