donald trump is the 21st century jefferson davis

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04 Jul 2020, 4:18 pm

https://www.salon.com/2020/07/04/donald ... m--and-us/

Seems pretty accurate all around. Here’s to hoping that his diehard racist cult member fan base isn’t large enough in numbers to re-elect him & the USA can begin healing from his failed reign.

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04 Jul 2020, 4:47 pm

you can win the presidency with 27% of the popular vote.

you just need:

california
texas
new york
florida
pennsylvania
illinois
ohio
michigan
georgia
north carolina
new jersey

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04 Jul 2020, 5:38 pm

Will Biden voters be too scared to vote and risk infection?

Pew polls suggests Democrats are much more likely to think coronavirus will affect voting.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/20 ... -covid-19/

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04 Jul 2020, 8:37 pm

Jefferson Davis wouldn’t even have socialized with Donald Trump.

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04 Jul 2020, 9:46 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

Jefferson Davis wouldn’t even have socialized with Donald Trump.

What makes you say that

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04 Jul 2020, 9:46 pm

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Will Biden voters be too scared to vote and risk infection?

Isn't their answer to have people more able to not have to vote in person at the poll station, but do mail? Cramming all of those people together is going to get people sick, which would lead to people dying.

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05 Jul 2020, 5:39 am

Trump has no “class.” Jefferson Davis was a social snob.

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06 Jul 2020, 9:30 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

Trump has no “class.” Jefferson Davis was a social snob.

Yup,Trump is lacking in good manners.He is crude and unpolished.He would not be invited to supper.

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06 Jul 2020, 1:33 pm

Bradleigh wrote:

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Will Biden voters be too scared to vote and risk infection?

Only some states are allowing it/preparing to allow for expanded absentee mail in ballots.

Guess which states are stalling or doing what they can to not allow it?

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06 Jul 2020, 1:37 pm

Jefferson Davis might have been the Confederate President----but I'm sure he would have handled this COVID crisis much better than the schmuck Trump.

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07 Jul 2020, 6:42 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

Jefferson Davis might have been the Confederate President----but I'm sure he would have handled this COVID crisis much better than the schmuck Trump.

I'm sure Pinochet, Stalin, Mussolini or Hitler would have handled it better as well, but somehow I feel like Trump's incompetence might actually in the long-run be America's saving grace. Imagine how dangerous a competent Trump could be. :wink:

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07 Jul 2020, 7:09 pm

I hate Trump with as much passion as the next member of Gen Z, but it's a cheap article. Davis wasn't that bad. I've read a few of his biographies. You treat a person as a product of their time, and Davis had some good qualities. He believed that black people were capable of self-government/self-management (largely under his brother's idealistic influence) and promoted the rights of slaves within the limited sense that you'd expect of a more liberal-minded Southern gentleman. One of his first acts as "president" was to pass a law that gave slaves rights to intellectual ownership. He believed in social segregation, but so did Lincoln to the very day he died. Davis is interesting. Can't say as much for Trump.

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08 Jul 2020, 1:19 am

Davis as a person, and as a politician, had very little in common with Trump.

Davis, ironically was a pro Unionist among southerners (pro slavery, but pro union)who ended up kind of falling into the job presiding over the Confederacy after it broke away from the Union.

Fun fact: Lincoln and Davis were born less than 100 miles apart in the same state of Kentucky: a "border state" that had slaves but stayed in the Union during the Civil War.

Twentieth Century Alabama governor George Wallace was a lot like Trump in both political substance (opposed to the Black Civil Rights Movement), and in style: a populist rabble rouser, who fed off the roar of the crowd, but who was bored with the job of actually governing.

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08 Jul 2020, 2:48 pm

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I also noticed Trump's resemblance to George Wallace after reading Nixonland. Would not put it past Trump to use his wife as a puppet so he can be elected past the legal limit - he's made jokes about a third term, which usually lets you know that he's testing the waters to see what he can get away with.

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08 Jul 2020, 2:58 pm

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naturalplastic wrote:

One LITTLE problem. Melania was born in Slovenia. So (like Arnold Schwarznegger) she is bared by the Constitution from running for POTUS because she wasnt born in the USA. Though his daughter, Ivanka, is 38. Since Ivanka is over 35, and is native born, she could legally run for POTUS.

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08 Jul 2020, 3:19 pm

His wife cannot become President or Vice President.

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