The problem of Nazi/Mandatory vaxx and mask comparisons

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A French Holocaust survivor has denounced anti-vaxxer protesters making “hateful” comparisons between themselves and Jews who were persecuted by Nazi Germany during World War II, as part of a backlash against new rules mandating COVID vaccinations for healthcare workers.

As more than 100,000 people marched around France against the Macron government’s vaccine rules on Saturday, some demonstrators wore yellow stars resembling those the Nazis forced Jews to wear.
Nurses hold placards as they march during an anti-vaccine protest in Paris on the weekend.

Others carried signs evoking the Auschwitz death camp or South Africa’s apartheid regime, claiming the French government was unfairly mistreating them with its anti-pandemic measures.

“You can’t imagine how much that upset me. This comparison is hateful. We must all rise up against this ignominy,” Holocaust survivor Joseph Szwarc said on Sunday during a ceremony commemorating victims of antisemitic and racist acts by the French state, which collaborated with Adolf Hitler’s regime.

“I wore the star, I know what that is, I still have it in my flesh. It is everyone’s duty to not allow this outrageous, antisemitic, racist wave to pass over us.”

A well-known Australian anti-vaxxer has taken down her social media accounts after posting a disturbing photo of her family online.

Sarah Mills, a mother of three from regional NSW with a collective following of more than 100,000 across Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook, posted the images to her accounts as Greater Sydney came out of lockdown yesterday.

In the photos, she can be seen smiling with her children while wearing yellow patches in the shape of the Star of David. A proud symbol of Judaism, a version it was infamously used by the Nazis to identify Jewish people and mark them as an "enemy of the people".

Where the Nazi patches had the word "Jude" (German for Jew), Mills wrote "no vax" before attaching the stars to her and her children's T-shirts.

A Connecticut lawmaker compared Gov. Ned Lamont to Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler over the state’s vaccine policy, saying “this is no longer land of the free.”

“King Lamont aka Hitler dictating what we must inject into our bodies to feed our family!” Dauphinais wrote in a reply late Thursday to a Facebook post by CT News Junkie.

Dauphinais then doubled down in a subsequent Facebook post Friday, claiming Lamont was calling on vaccinated people to discriminate against their unvaccinated counterparts

As the Covid vaccine mandate for New York’s health care and education workers went into effect recently, a legal form making the rounds on social media and online caught my eye.

“By authority of the Nuremberg Code on Medical Experimentation, I do hereby exercise my right to refuse to submit to or to administer the Covid 19 experimental gene therapy injection heretofore known as the ‘Covid 19 Vaccine’… [Medical personnel] are hereby put on notice that any further effort to coerce, intimidate, persuade, trick or compel me to receive any experimental gene therapy injection… implicates you as aiding and abetting in the capital offense of a crime against humanity.”

The reach of that legal form, which is available for all to download, may be limited. But the thought behind it – that the ongoing resistance to Covid vaccines can somehow be tied to the Nuremberg Code and inhumane Nazi medical experiments – is widespread enough that it demands a reiteration of the historical record.

Eighty years ago, in 1941, inmates in Auschwitz were first used by Nazi doctors as live medical experiment subjects. These early trials focused on researching the tolerance level and effectiveness of new medical preparations and drugs. Soon thereafter, Jewish women imprisoned in Auschwitz’s Block 10 were subjected to heinous sterilization and castration experiments. It was also at that time that Dr. Josef Mengele launched his experiments on twins, pregnant women, and others he deemed interesting. The SS Hygienic Institute, which operated out of Auschwitz, focused on infectious diseases.

The list of Nazi medical experiments is terrifyingly long. Historians have found nearly 30,000 Jewish victims, and that number likely is a vast undercount.

Even the most basic reading of the Nuremburg Code makes clear that Nazi medical crimes – the only time in modern history when medicine was deliberately employed as a genocidal tool – simply do not belong in any discussion about Covid vaccine mandates.

Victims of Nazi medical experiments, to be absolutely clear, never had a choice.

imprisoned, malnourished, exhausted and frightened, they were unwillingly selected for medical trials they knew nothing about. No word of explanation, or care of any kind, was given before they were sterilized, or inoculated with a chemical substance, or operated upon. No word of explanation or care came after, either. No attention whatsoever was given to their suffering. If they survived, they were the lucky ones. Refusal meant death.

“Our refusal would ultimately mean that we would be transported to Birkenau, and everybody knew that people were gassed in Birkenau,” one survivor recounted.

Not a single person was forced to partake in a Covid vaccine trial. Not a single person is being forcefully immunized against Covid. And not a single person will face the gas chambers if they choose to not get vaccinated against Covid.

I bet if today's people were alive in WWII, they would be ... resisting any attempts at conscription ...

You don't have any say over your own body, I'm going to put this into your body, and you have no say, your opinion doesn't interest me. Submit or be hurt until you submit.

It's not that different to rape. It's someone saying

You don't have any say over your own body, I'm going to put this into your body, and you have no say, your opinion doesn't interest me. Submit or be hurt until you submit.

Wether the, This, is a penis, or a needle full of mystery substance X, doesn't change the fundamental violation of bodily autonomy.

And you wont really grasp it, because you like the vaccine, so you wont understand why it's mandation is bad.

So lets change it a little.
A government duly elected by the people, decides that being gay is bad, and starts mandating drugs to suppress the sex drive of people deemed, deviants.

You'll say "oh but I don't mind gay people, so forcibly using drugs to castrate them. That would be kind of evil!"

Um, notice that word "mandated!" your opinion and personal conscience doesn't interest them, you have abrogated your say, such matters are for the leaders now. Not people like you.

Just as the leaders mandated the vaccine that you approve of, they mandated anti-gay drugs, that you disapprove of.

But note that in both of the above cases, your opinion about your own body, didn't matter, that's what you give up in that scenario, your right of individual conscience.
You're rights to your own body.

This is one reason why vaccine mandates are bad.

There were conscientious objectors in World Wars 1 and 2.
They were for the most part respected because the values of the enlightenment had not been entirely forgotten at that point.

It was the totalitarian regimes that broadly persecuted conscientious objectors.

Do you understand?
Supremacy of the individual conscience is a cornerstone of Western Civilisation.

A person must not be subjected to medical treatment without their full, free, and informed consent.
Vaccination is a medical procedure, thus, forcing a person to be vaccinated against their will violates them.

It's not that different to rape. It's someone saying



Wether the, This, is a penis, or a needle full of mystery substance X, doesn't change the fundamental violation of bodily autonomy.

And you wont really grasp it, because you like the vaccine, so you wont understand why it's mandation is bad.

So lets change it a little.
A government duly elected by the people, decides that being gay is bad, and starts mandating drugs to suppress the sex drive of people deemed, deviants.

You'll say "oh but I don't mind gay people, so forcibly using drugs to castrate them. That would be kind of evil!"

Um, notice that word "mandated!" your opinion and personal conscience doesn't interest them, you have abrogated your say, such matters are for the leaders now. Not people like you.

Just as the leaders mandated the vaccine that you approve of, they mandated anti-gay drugs, that you disapprove of.

But note that in both of the above cases, your opinion about your own body, didn't matter, that's what you give up in that scenario, your right of individual conscience.
You're rights to your own body.

This is one reason why vaccine mandates are bad.

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Um, in a post about Nazi comparisons you just compared getting vaccinated to rape.

No I compared Cooerced vaccination with rape. I'm no anti vaxxer. I am a health professional who takes the concept of medical ethics very seriously.

I remind you that the difference between making love and rape is consent.

If you are physically overwhelmed by a rapist you have no choice. With the current vaccine mandates you still have a choice.

Would you apply that same reasoning to Harvey Weinsteins rapes? After all he didn't hold the women down and physically overwhelm them.

Is requiring your employees to wash their hands also a rape-like violation of their bodily freedoms?
Serious question - where are the limit lines?

What about seat belt laws and requiring children to ride in car seats?

Is requiring your employees to wash their hands also a rape-like violation of their bodily freedoms?
Serious question - where are the limit lines?